"Bring Out Your Dead!"

[Aught Six]

Plague a growing but overlooked threat: study

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We're fortunate to have excellent medical treatment here in the U.S., but what happens when this hops the ocean and eventually becomes resistant to antibiotics? I doubt it will be all that serious in the short term, but it still concerns me. Plague kills a lot faster than TB.

[Charlie P]

I'm not dead yet!

[Briman]

We're fortunate to have excellent medical treatment here in the U.S., but what happens when this hops the ocean and eventually becomes resistant to antibiotics?

Its here already and has always been here, a few people contract bubonic plague in the southwest every year. Fortunately hygeine is much better than it was a few hundred years ago when the plague last swept through Europe.

I'd be much more worried about bird flu- its one of those things that isn't a matter of 'if' but a matter of 'when.' When it comes, it will kill off a much higher percentage than the plague ever killed.

[bigtim6656]

i was watching either surviver man or manVSwild not sure which one

and he was in the desert out west and killed a rat.

He burnt it to a char because he said there were rats in the desert still infected with the plague so it is already in the west

And things like bird flu and TB and sars have went all over the world already unless your already sick old or real young it is very rare it kills

ORIGINAL: Briman

Its here already and has always been here, a few people contract bubonic plague in the southwest every year. Fortunately hygeine is much better than it was a few hundred years ago when the plague last swept through Europe.

I'd be much more worried about bird flu- its one of those things that isn't a matter of 'if' but a matter of 'when.' When it comes, it will kill off a much higher percentage than the plague ever killed.

[Canuck_Buck]

ORIGINAL: Charlie P

I'm not dead yet!

I'm getting better..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A

[Knightia]

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A few links/storys about plague in Wy( i didnt read them all)
( maybe a good reason to avoid the area?)

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Plague-Plague was first identified in Wyoming in 1936 in ground squirrel fleas from Yellowstone National Park. Since that time it has been identified in animals or ...
wdhfs.state.wy.us/vector_borne/Plague.htm

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USATODAY.com - Plague-infected cats cause worry in WyomingA southwest Colorado woman who caught plague from infected fleas is the region's only human case this year. Wyoming has had just five human cases since 1978 ...
www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-07-09-wyoming-cats_x.htm

Plague in a complex of white-tailed prairie dogs and associated ...Fleas were collected from white-tailed prairie dogs (Cynomys leucurus) and ... (Wyoming, USA) in 1989 and 1990 to investigate the dynamics of plague in this ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uid s=9391955&dopt=Abstract

Bubonic plague kills Wyo. mountain lions - Environment - MSNBC.comTwo mountain lions have died of bubonic plague in northwest Wyoming in ... Bubonic plague is often spread by fleas but if it reaches an animal"™s lungs, ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16227397/
Plague in a Free-ranging Mule Deer from Wyominga plague. ep-. idemic. in the. area. Presence. of plague. has been. recognized. in. Wyoming. since. 1936. when. Y. pestis. was. isolated. from. fleas ...
www.jwildlifedis.org/cgi/reprint/23/1/155.pdf
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Bubonic plagueis here in Wy( but nothing to do with hygene(or the garbage rats, non native rats etc). You can see some ofthe warning signs to be carefull etc-where we camp& fish at insome places.

But there are diffent kinds of plague also as mentioned in the story-one ( bubonic-mainly being spread by rodents/ animalsetc& there fleas.
( there was a cases in about 1990 of a man dieing here of it- itwasnt so notable that he died i dont think- but that after he died ppl went to his house& killed his dog& burned down his house - if i remember that correctly- that was up near the Mt border)
"Der Doktor Schnabel von Rom" (English: "Doctor Beak of Rome") engraving by Paul Fürst (after J Columbina). The beak is a primitive gas mask, stuffed with substances (such as spices and herbs) worn by physicians thought to ward off the plague.


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The other & id think the worse type is- it canspread frominfected persons to other persons & isairborne.
( but is not the type here as far as i know - we have the good or better of the 2 types of plague
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The pneumonic plague infects the lungs, and with that infection comes the possibility of person-to-person transmission through respiratory droplets. The incubation period for pneumonic plague is usually between two and four days, but can be as little as a few hours. The initial symptoms, of headache, weakness, and coughing with hemoptysis, are indistinguishable from other respiratory illnesses. Without diagnosis and treatment, the infection can be fatal in one to six days; mortality in untreated cases is 50"“90%
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[Briman]

And things like bird flu and TB and sars have went all over the world already unless your already sick old or real young it is very rare it kills

TB is common, therer are plenty of people in N. America who have it. Sars was a flash in the pan, a few people got it, its wasn't very contageous, and it was mostly contained. Bird flu has only been showing up in a few remote villages in SE Asia, it jumps from fowl to pigs to humans and is fatal most of the time. Bird flu hasn't mutated so that it can be transmitted human to human yet, but it will if given enough time.

[Knightia]

But i guess both kinds can be present to ( as in the miidle ages) - not sure how that works... i will have to read up some more i guess on types incubations etc.

But yep it has been used in biological warfare for a long long time.

Catapult some of those dead bodys over the enemys castles walls

[Knightia]

Bird flu hasn't mutated so that it can be transmitted human to human yet, but it will if given enough time.

Yep -yet is right.

West nile fever does kill a few older ppl here per yr i think( a few cases of huntavirus too).

Same with the black widows in my house- they shouldnt killanyone-unless your older, real young or have other heath problems etc

[Briman]

Catapult some of those dead bodys over the enemys castles walls

Ghengis Khan brought it to Europe by doing such. It has swept through Europe and the East several times in Human history.