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Old 01-08-2008, 10:20 PM   #1
 
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Default Huckabee vs. Pro China

Ok i've heard enough about Huckabee not being a conservative.Since when did being Anti-pro China become such an issue with the average conservative?

Did he raise taxes? Yes

Did he lower burden taxes? Yes 94 times

Did he remain steadfast against abortion? Yes

Did he remain determined to keep marriage credible? Yes

Did he plow for the second amendment? Yes 100% Always

Did he fight for our HUNTING heritage? Yes 100% Always

Does he think that Red China is playing fair? No

Does he think RED CHINA is making alot of "So called Reagan conservatives,Club for Growth,Ceo types rich off the peril of Americans? HECK YES

Reagan was for free trade as is Huckabee but unless you have been sleeping for the past decade you cannot claim that Reagan would call China fair trade.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:31 PM   #2
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When it comes to the American conservative, fiscal conservatism, including the concept of free markets (not "fair trade"), is a central tenet. We have contained China for over 50 years. Nixon, pretty well conservative himself,began our relationship with China back in 1972, surprising the world with his diplomacy while splitting the Soviet Union and China politically. Yeah, they sell us cheap crap. And that's exactly what the American consumer, an economic force unto itself, wants. We will continue to buy cheap crap while continuing to undermine communism through American trade (we're expanding markets in China, too, you know) and cultural programming.

I bet you China is going to embarrass itself this year during the Olympics. Someone's going to make a scene. They've never really had international credibility until recently, but Idon't think they know what to do with it.We will outlast those commies just like we have with the others.
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I agree with the philosiphy? But it aint working. China is trying to destabilize the dollar by buying up all our debt and basically backing us up.

I'm no isolationist but we should be moving our market not China.

Seriously,doesn't "Goods from China laden in lead kinda scare you"? Maybe,just maybe they are trying to do more than destroy our Dollar.
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Seriously,doesn't "Goods from China laden in lead kinda scare you"?
Yes, I lose a lot of sleep over it. I mean I'm very lucky that growing up in a 100 year old house full of layers of lead paint while playing with lead painted toys I turned out normal just like several generations before me. Maybe I just don't buy into the latest media fed fears

We might not have a level playing field with trading with China, but then again, name a country that we do have one with... ***an has never played fair, and the Eurotards want to push their carbon trading bullcrap agenda on us so that we have to live at their level of misery. At least Chinese people are catching on to captalism, unfortunately the rest of hte world is heading the other way- and that includes us.
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Yes, I lose a lot of sleep over it. I mean I'm very lucky that growing up in a 100 year old house full of layers of lead paint while playing with lead painted toys I turned out normal just like several generations before me.
Sorry but your avatar doesn't look normal....?

I don't buy into it either but the old saying "Did you eat paint chips as a kid?" comes to mind.

China is not only destroying the U.S. economy but also American Pride.

Keep drinking the kool-aid friend,by the way "Did you eat paint chips as a kid?"
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Wow! personal attacks make you look like a genius.[8D]
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When it comes to the American conservative, fiscal conservatism, including the concept of free markets (not "fair trade"), is a central tenet. We have contained China for over 50 years. Nixon, pretty well conservative himself,began our relationship with China back in 1972, surprising the world with his diplomacy while splitting the Soviet Union and China politically. Yeah, they sell us cheap crap. And that's exactly what the American consumer, an economic force unto itself, wants. We will continue to buy cheap crap while continuing to undermine communism through American trade (we're expanding markets in China, too, you know) and cultural programming.

I bet you China is going to embarrass itself this year during the Olympics. Someone's going to make a scene. They've never really had international credibility until recently, but Idon't think they know what to do with it.We will outlast those commies just like we have with the others.
I'm not pro-China. I don't think the current trading between China, Korea, Singapore, ***an and the US is fair. Those guys are much shrewder, conniving, and savy at the negotiating table. We change our players every 4 years and substitute rank tyros, most generally, in the place of their predecessors. So much for preamble.

I think our position is more grave than perceived, and it isn't due to unfair competition. Not to put too fine a point on it, the Chinese, Koreans, Singaporeans, and the ***anese out work us, out hustle us, and out study us. I am challenged to find an American virtue that distinguishes us from these guys and provides a reasonable basis for projecting our outlasting or out running these guys. They will work more hours per week. They will study harder and achieve more academically. Look how orientals perform inour US school systems. As a culture, they are simply more committed to education and hard work than we are in the US . . . and I mean me, WASPs, whites of generally european descent. If there is a strengh of our culture, it is our independence and readiness to march to our own drummer. Hierarchy dominates the oriental cultures -- a hang over of Confucianism which is very strong, particularly in China and Korea -- and subordinates rarely oppose or redirect their superiors. If there is a strength of the US nation, it is our adherence to the rule of law. Korea has been exceedingly corrupt in the past and remains, if less corrupt, still pretty corrupt. China simply has not matured enough to put a rigorous system of laws and administration of laws in place. Things get done "through the back door" much of the time, around the edges and through the holes of the incomplete and immature system. In the past China and Korea have been very strong, more strong, technologically advanced than europe. Europe's ascendence began with the renaissance and the embrace of science. For various reasons -- perhaps Confucianism -- the orient was slower to develop than the west. They have gotten the picture now, however, and they are developing very rapidly.

Please don't take my post as anti-American or anti-West or pro-China. I'm not.
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[I grew] up in a 100 year old house full of layers of lead paint while playing with lead painted toys
That explains a lot...
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