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Old 12-21-2007, 01:02 PM   #1
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Default Remember The Kid With The NRA T-shirt?

Student told to cover up lesbian T-shirt

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Here's another story from another endof the social spectrum. Yes, Virginia public schools are having a field day trying to ban certainpieces of clothing. But I doubt they'll win if this goes to court.
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:02 PM   #2
 
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Would they send her home if she wore a plaid flannel shirt and dingo boots? That outfit says pretty much the same thing. Let the kid wear the t-shirt.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:21 PM   #3
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We don't allow that sort of thing here in Whitebread, Ohio.
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If the child was supposed to being "business" appropriate dress, to meet the class that they were teaching then, of course there is a problem here. Otherwise, who really cares. I can understand the teacher making her take action to cover it up even so. T-shirts with sexual things on them are not appropriate IMHO in school. I was once told to turn my t-shirt inside out my senior year because it had a picture of a piece of artwork, that showed partically naked people. Keep in mind it was a artsy shirt and I was a artsy girl. I turned it inside out. This is truly stupid. The student should be smart enough also to realize that the shirt might be offensive to someone. Had a student been wearing a shirt with a male symbol and a female symbol together, maybe they would have asked them to do the same. But being normal isn't cool. Case of everyone lacking some common sense.
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Old 12-22-2007, 12:00 AM   #5
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I really think you sold out to the system that time. No one in that school would've even suspended you. Anarachy!

*sets shoelaces on fire in protest*
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:18 AM   #6
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Umm....the school has rules governing dress which may have been violated by the display of this sexual message. These rules are known by the students in attendance. So I ask the question "Is it ok to fling the rule back back in the dean's face because one might unilaterally decide they don't agree with the rules ?" I don't know...I thought school was a place of learning....sexual/political messages such as that being worn on the tee-shirt have no place in an institute of learning and the teacher was correct in his assertion. I do not see this as a 'freedom of speech' issue at all...I see this as a belligerent teenager making a point by flaunting the rules. Sorry...that's a no-go IMHO, especially in a place that is completely populated by belligerent, rule flaunting people at an age where this is considered a cool thing to do. Each concession to the rules, and each exception to the rules in place at that school degrades the ability of educators to do their job, which is teaching kids. Part of that education is 'appropriateness' and regardless of one's sexual preferences, 'appropriateness' is recognized by it's absence. You come into my office and sit across from my desk and ask me for a job wearing something 'inappropriate' then you're gonna tell your story walkin'..... Except in this case, because the ACLU is rewarding inappropriateness, regardless of it's effect on other students and the faculty at that school.
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:24 AM   #7
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Bergalls correct about dress codes in schools, they had them when I was there and I assume they still do.We couldnt wear anything depicting sex, drugs, alcohol, or tobacco to school.The ACLU never came to my defense for wearing my favorite Budwieser shirt to school.


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Bergalls correct about dress codes in schools, they had them when I was there and I assume they still do.We couldnt wear anything depicting sex, drugs, alcohol, or tobacco to school.The ACLU never came to my defense for wearing my favorite Budwieser shirt to school.

Hell, I was educated in a Catholic high school by the Brothers of St. Francis... could not even wear long hair back then...if it was over your collar it was too long and there were CONSEQUENCES !! Hoo boy... We had a dress code....blazer jacket, button-down shirt and a tie. You did not break the code, period, because rules were made to be followed, not broken. You were allowed to protest the code in writing and verbally, but like those 'public forums' you go to before they pass a tax increase, public discourse was encouraged and 'taken under advisement'. It has been my experience, both personal and professional, that all else being equal, schools with structure turn out a superior graduate than those that do not....
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Sure it is kids should question authority or we become robots.
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Old 12-22-2007, 08:26 AM   #10
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My son was told to turn a T-shirt out that has this on the back and a gun on the front. I went out and bought one after that so I could wear it to a meeting I had with his teachers.

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Yea it might start a discussion into something that would suck.


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