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Old 12-15-2007, 12:41 PM   #1
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This is so unbelievable, I might think it was made up, if it weren"t for so many credible people I have seen on TV (CNN, MSNBC) commenting on it, including a Republican Congressman from Texas.

Apparently, Halliburton not only thinks it is above the law in getting exclusive bids for Federal government contracts. It now appears as if Halliburton thinks its employees can gang rape 20 year old American women and not be held accountable. Have you heard about this? It"s been in the news the past few days.

Jamie Leigh Jones was working in Iraq for a subsidiary of Halliburton (Kellog Brown Root) when she was drugged and brutally gang-raped by several coworkers. The next day, Halliburton told her that if she left Iraq to get medical treatment, she could lose her job.

Here is her account of what happened:

"I awoke the next morning in the barracks to find my naked body battered and bruised. I was still groggy from whatever had been put in my drink. I was bleeding... After getting to the clinic and having a rape kit performed...I was locked in a shipping container with no food, no way to call my parents, and was placed under armed guard by Halliburton."

She was finally able to convince someone to lend her a cell phone and used it to call her father in Texas. Her father called his (Republican) representative in Congress. The representative spoke to some people at the State Department, who sent some State Department employees over to free her from the shipping container where she was being held by armed Halliburton guards.

For the last two years, she's been asking the US government to hold the perpetrators accountable. But the men who raped her may never be brought to justice because Halliburton and other contractors in Iraq say they aren't subject to US or Iraqi laws. Halliburton claims they can't be tried for a crime in any court.

This is one of the most disturbing stories I"ve come across in a while. MoveOn.org is calling on Congress to investigate Jamie's case, hold those involved accountable, and bring US contractors under the jurisdiction of US law so this can't happen again.

For the last two years, she's been asking the US government to hold the perpetrators accountable, but the men who raped her may never be brought to justice because Halliburton and other contractors in Iraq say they aren't subject to US or Iraqi laws.
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Old 12-15-2007, 12:48 PM   #2
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This is so unbelievable, I might think it was made up, if it weren"t for so many credible people I have seen on TV (CNN, MSNBC) commenting on it, including a Republican Congressman from Texas.
Here's your first mistake...don't believe everything you see on TV.

Also, don't go to a friggin' war zone and think that you're immune from harm.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:13 PM   #3
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Ha Haaaa! Yes only belive what Aught says!
I must say Aught , In your hast to be the first to reply and support the insanity of it all, you have managed to make ...Deleted by CalHunter...
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:18 PM   #4
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If you can point to the U.S. laws that are valid in Iraq, perhaps I'll change my opinion...

Women don't belong in war zones. They are vulnerable around the thousands of lonely, drunken contractors over there, even if they're the butchest of the butch.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:59 PM   #5
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Its so unbelievable that I dont believe it. Locked in a storage container? Sounds to me like she is after some big money.

I also read some stories about it. It wasnt just Haliburton contractors, locked in a room after reporting it, locked in a room after the rape etc
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:25 PM   #6
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Where was Big Dick Cheney?I bet he and his gopher George did the drugging.
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Here's your first mistake...don't believe everything you see on TV.

Also, don't go to a friggin' war zone and think that you're immune from harm.
And thats your second mistake.
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Old 12-15-2007, 04:06 PM   #8
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Women don't belong in war zones. They are vulnerable around the thousands of lonely, drunken contractors over there, even if they're the butchest of the butch.


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Its so unbelievable that I dont believe it. Locked in a storage container? Sounds to me like she is after some big money.


I can"t believe you are blaming this woman. First: She was a Halliburton employee working at Camp Hope in Baghdad, so she had a pretty good reason for being in Iraq. Second: The first thing she had done when she regained consciousness was go to a Halliburton doctor and have a rape kit done. She was bleeding from both her vagina and anus. This wasn"t Iraqis that did this; it wasn"t Al Qaida; it was our own, American employees of an American company that did this. And this same American company with connections to the Vice President of the United States is trying to shush this up and avoid any accountability!

I know you don"t believe anything that isn"t on Faux News, and that you believe ANYTHING that IS on Faux News, but, umm, tell me, why is a Republican Congressman from Texas in on this with the "liberal media elite"? Oh, and why did the State Department have to send its employees over to free her from the armed Halliburton guards that were guarding her in a shipping container? Were they bored and had nothing better to do? There HAS to be all kinds of paper trails on this. Calls from the Congressman, orders to State Department employees, etc.

Here is a more detailed account of what happened, from the website of REPUBLICAN Congressman Poe in Texas (http://poe.house.gov/):

"Jamie Leigh Jones was a 20-year-old woman who worked for Halliburton KBR. (Halliburton has divested itself from KBR since 2005). She was sent to Iraq as part of her employment. She was sent to Baghdad to a place, ironically, called Camp Hope, in the supposed Green Zone that was suppose to be safe. After being in Iraq only a few days, she said she was held against her will, drugged, gang-raped by KBR firefighters.

The people in charge of her held her hostage in a ship cargo container for 24 hours without any food or water. She became an American hostage. Held hostage by fellow Americans. She convinced one of the people guarding her to let her borrow his cell phone. After obtaining the cell phone, Jamie called her dad in Texas and pleaded for help and begged to be rescued. She was scared, she was hurt, she was half a world away from home, and she was alone.

Jamie's dad called me because I represent him in Congress. Her father relayed the tragic assault and crime, and of course needed immediate assistance. My staff and I were able to contact the right people in the United States State Department, and within 48 hours two agents from the embassy in Baghdad found and rescued Jamie, made sure she received appropriate medical attention, and brought her home.

Jamie had been seen by Army doctors in Baghdad and had been given, apparently, good medical care while being treated in Baghdad. A forensic sexual assault examination was performed on her. This examination is commonly called a rape kit. Doctors take forensic samples from a sexual assault victim and then they are preserved as evidence for trial in this rape kit. But, Madam Speaker, for some unknown reason, the Army doctors turned this rape kit over to Jamie's employer, KBR. KBR then lost the rape kit. The rape kit was later found, but it had been tampered with. The photographs are now missing, and the Army doctor's cover sheet with the medical findings are not there."

I bet if this was done by inner city black kids, you"d probably have a noose in your hand before it even went to court. But when it"s a Republican-aligned, politically-connected international corporation that"s run by rich white men, you don"t even think it"s worth an investigation?

You disgust me"
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Old 12-15-2007, 04:19 PM   #9
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LOL, well said, liberal.

If you had been paying attention, you would've known that I remain contemptuous of just about all political parties right now. I don't give a damn whether someone's a Republican or a flamin' commie--they all have agendas. It's a feeding frenzy in DC right now and everyone is out for blood. You have to take every smear story with a grain of salt until investigations and prosecutions have been exhausted. It's still innocent until proven guilty, etc.

Personally, I don't care for the party, but I do like Dick Cheney. I don't want some whiny, ...Deleted by CalHunter..., peace, love, and understanding liberal in the White House in any capacity. He focuses on what he thinks is important and doesn't let people cajole him into submission. AndGod forbidanyone in a position of authority actually had an executive leadership position in athriving company. I mean man, there'sobviouslysomething wrong with you if you can actually achieve what most can't even dream of.
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Old 12-15-2007, 05:00 PM   #10
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Actually, 0-6, if you had been paying attention, you'd know that I'm not a liberal and not a Democrat. I used to work for the Republican Party and I've volunteered for conservative not-for-profits.

Yeah, Cheney has "executive leadership" if by that you mean he's a traitor. By that, I mean:

1) He has pushed the Bush administration to violate multiple obligations of treaties we have signed, especially the Geneva Convention. This has really helped the U.S.'s reputation and enabled us to continue to take the moral high ground and encouraged international supportfor us in the "war on terror".

2) WhenCheney was in "an executive leadership position in athriving company" he started an "independent"Halliburton subsidiary with the same name (Halliburton) and the same logo based in the Cayman Islandsso he could do business with Iran, which was against the law at the time, because Iran was considered to be an enemy of the United States and a funder of terrorism. A criminal investigation into this is ongoing.

3) He personally directed the purposefulouting of a covert CIA operative, which jeopardized the U.S.'s anti-WMD information network in Nigeria, one of the prime places our enemies would try to get fissile material for a nuclear weapon. This is true treason. If we do see a mushroom cloud over a U.S. city in the future, there is a good chance that this act will have contributed to it.

4) He has repeatedly lied in interviews, not about what he was going to do, but about what he and others in the Bush administration had actually done.

What a great example this leader has set!

AndI thought kids having Hollywood heroes was bad enough!
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