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Old 11-21-2007, 08:57 PM   #1
 
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Default Utah-Utard highway patrolman!

This young man accepted his speeding tickey, was placing it in his pocket, and walking away. The Jock HP tasers the poor guy! The driver had refused to sign the ticket is all. THe gestapo cop wouldn't even tell him what he did wrong. I think he wanted to hit on the kids girlfriend, or make an impression! This is nothing less than unprofessional!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMaMYL_shxc
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:59 PM   #2
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Just about every state requires a person to sign a ticket (your promise to appear in court) in lieu of being arrested for the same offense. Not signing a ticket is basically delaying and or obstructing that officer from doing his job. Sometimes the video camera doesn't quite capture all of the sublteties of an incident.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:08 PM   #3
 
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Turn the volumn up, the HP wouldn't even tell him what he did wrong or how fast he was driving! Reports from Salt Lake said the guy was only going 5 over in a 40. Still uncalled for! Things like this are waht iswrong with lawenforcment, they are traffic cops, not judges and jurors. We are rapidly becoming a police state with over zealous butch haircut jock minded cops!
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:24 PM   #4
 
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Signing the ticket isn't necessary, if a person doesn't want to sign the officer can put "refused to sign" on the line and issue the ticket anyway. I don't know of any state that compels a person to sign a ticket. This officer will likely be fired, sued, and never hold a law enforcement position again. No agency wants to hire a guy who got this kind of attention.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:04 PM   #5
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I cant watch the video here at work but I did read the story on Fox news. From what I read, the guy didnt do what the officer ordered him to do (im not talking about signing the ticket) and got tasered for it. Be an ass to a cop, get zolched, whats the problem?
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He needs to be fired and sued for that. He had no right to tell him to get out of the SUV for refusing to sign the citation.. What that officer did was totally illegal and was the one at fault... ...Deleted by CalHunter...
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He needs to be fired and sued for that. He had no right to tell him to get out of the SUV for refusing to sign the citation.. What that officer did was totally illegal and was the one at fault... ...Deleted by CalHunter...
No right? Totally illegal? You can be arrested for not signing a ticket in Utah, how do you like those apples?The problem is not the cops, it people like you that dont respect authority and think they are above doing what an officer of the law asks.

That last part of your post makes me physically sick. How can you be so ignorant?
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:47 AM   #8
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He needs to be fired and sued for that. He had no right to tell him to get out of the SUV for refusing to sign the citation.. What that officer did was totally illegal and was the one at fault... ...Deleted by CalHunter...
No right? Totally illegal? You can be arrested for not signing a ticket in Utah, how do you like those apples?The problem is not the cops, it people like you that dont respect authority and think they are above doing what an officer of the law asks.

That last part of your post makes me physically sick. How can you be so ignorant?
I know, I couldn't believe when I read that [:@][:@][:@][:@]

Maybe Ron Paul can change it Sprite12 [8D][8D]
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A speeding ticket is a document that states a violation of the law, and has a pending court date. Your signature is promise that you will appear in court. If you do not sign the ticket, an officer is in his full right to take you to jail. Apparently the guy was not aware of that. The officer was also right when he told him the side of the highway was not the place to argue your case.

If I were the officer, I would have made sure he knew that before it got that far. But it still could have, because the kid showed no real signs that he would comply. I think the officer should have said "without your signature you do not get the benefit of leaving the scene." Instead he immediately went for his handcuffs.

I think Sheriff Taylor would have handled it much better.

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I think the officer could have handled it much differently and defused the situation. It seems to me that the person wanted to argue the specifics of the traffic situation and the officer could have spent 15 seconds of explanation rather than 5 minutes of chaos along an apparently dangerous construction zone.

While the officer may have been technically and legally justified in using force, that doesn't mean it had to happen.

He could have simply said, "You may refuse to sign the ticket. However if you do so, you will be immediately arrested; I will be forced to cuff you, place you in the car and transport you to jail right now."

Instead, it seems, he fostered a situation in which a routine traffic stop escalated into what could have been a tragedy.

The use of force should always be a last resort, in my opinion.
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