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Old 11-20-2007, 10:13 AM   #1
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Just heard something disturbing on Paul Harvey. They claimed that some U.S. soldiers that are wounded in combat are being forced to return their enlistment bonuses because they can't complete theirservice contract. Anybody know anything about this?
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:23 AM   #2
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If thats true, that is the worse thingive heard in a long time.[:'(]
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:29 AM   #3
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Sounds bad if true. The vets haven't got good treatment IMO. Most of them are coming back home with psychological baggage and aren't being properly treated


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I'm not sure there has ever been a time when returning Vets got what they really deserved, but this would be way out of line.
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That unfortunately is not anything new, as at least the Army has done that for many a year. They are sticklers in regards to contractual agreements.
I would like to see all injured vets get full benefits.
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:45 AM   #6
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Damn, in the NFL i don't think that a playerhas to return his signing bonus if he breaks his leg at mid-season, but a 19 year old kid that gets blown to hell by an IED does. What a crock.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:42 AM   #7
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This is the only case i am aware of and it was in 2004. The bean counters in the Pentagon may have given up do to the adverse publicity.

WRONG!!!! My Bad. The bean counters are back at it. The puke who runs military personnel, David Chu, is no doubt behind this. He is the guy who says that veterans benefits are "hurtful to national defense."

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"Wounded Soldier: Military Wants Part Of Bonus Back
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Marty Griffin [/align]PITTSBURGH (KDKA) "•
The U.S. Military is demanding that thousands of wounded service personnel give back signing bonuses because they are unable to serve out their commitments.
To get people to sign up, the military gives enlistment bonuses up to $30,000 in some cases.
Now men and women who have lost arms, legs, eyesight, hearing and can no longer serve are being ordered to pay some of that money back.
One of them is Jordan Fox, a young soldier from the South Hills.
He finds solace in the hundreds of boxes he loads onto a truck in Carnegie. In each box is a care package that will be sent to a man or woman serving in Iraq. It was in his name Operation Pittsburgh Pride was started.
Fox was seriously injured when a roadside bomb blew up his vehicle. He was knocked unconscious. His back was injured and lost all vision in his right eye.
A few months later Fox was sent home. His injuries prohibited him from fulfilling three months of his commitment. A few days ago, he received a letter from the military demanding nearly $3,000 of his signing bonus back.
"I tried to do my best and serve my country. I was unfortunately hurt in the process. Now they're telling me they want their money back," he explained.
It's a slap for Fox's mother, Susan Wardezak, who met with President Bush in Pittsburgh last May. He thanked her for starting Operation Pittsburgh Pride which has sent approximately 4,000 care packages.
He then sent her a letter expressing his concern over her son's injuries, so she cannot understand the U.S. Government's apparent lack of concern over injuries to countless U.S. Soldiers and demands that they return their bonuses.
While he's unsure of his future, Fox says he's unwavering in his commitment to his country.
"I'd do it all over again cause I'm proud of the discipline I learned - proud I could do something for my country," he said.
But Fox feels like he's already given enough. He'll never be able to pursue his dream of being a police officer because of his wounds and he can't believe he's being asked to return part of his $10,000 signing bonus.
KDKA contacted Congressman Jason Altmire on his behalf. He says he has proposed a bill that would guarantee soldiers receive full benefit of bonuses."




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"Injured Soldiers Returning from Iraq Struggle for Medical Benefits, Financial Survival
By BRIAN ROSS, DAVID SCOTT and MADDY SAUER
Oct. 14, 2004 --Following inquiries by ABC News, the Pentagon has dropped plans to force a severely wounded U.S. soldier to repay his enlistment bonus after injuries had forced him out of the service.
Army Spc. Tyson Johnson III of Mobile, Ala., who lost a kidney in a mortar attack last year in Iraq, was still recovering at Walter Reed Army Medical Center when he received notice from the Pentagon's own collection agency that he owed more than $2,700 because he could not fulfill his full 36-month tour of duty.
Johnson said the Pentagon listed the bonus on his credit report as an unpaid government loan, making it impossible for him to rent an apartment or obtain credit cards.
"Oh man, I felt betrayed," Johnson said. "I felt, like, oh, my heart dropped."
Pentagon officials said they were unaware of the case until it was brought to their attention by ABC News. "Some faceless bureaucrat" was responsible for Johnson's predicament, said Gen. Franklin "Buster" Hagenbeck, a three-star general and the Army's deputy chief of staff for personnel.
"It's absolutely unacceptable. It's intolerable," said Hagenbeck. "I mean, I'm incredulous when I hear those kinds of things. I just can't believe that we allow that to happen. And we're not going to let it happen."
The Department of Defense and the Army intervened to have the collection action against Johnson stopped, said Hagenbeck.
"I was told today he's not going to have a nickel taken from him," he said. "And I will tell you that we'll keep a microscope on this one to see the outcome."
'Not So Good'
Hagenbeck also pledged to look into the cases of the other soldiers ABC News brought to the military's attention, including men who lost limbs and their former livelihoods after serving in Iraq.
"When you're in the military, they take good care of you," said the 23-year-old Johnson. "But now that I'm a vet, and, you know, I'm out of the military "” not so good. Not so good."
Johnson had been flying high last September, after being promoted from Army private first class to specialist in a field ceremony in Iraq. Inspired by his father's naval background to join the military after high school, Tyson planned a career in the military and the promotion was just the first step. But only a week after the ceremony took place, a mortar round exploding outside his tent brought him quickly back to Earth.
"It was like warm water running down my arms," he said. "But it was warm blood."
In addition to the lost kidney, shrapnel damaged Johnson's lung and heart, and entered the back of his head. Field medical reports said he was not expected to live more than 72 hours.
With the help of exceptional Army surgeons, Johnson survived. As he recuperated, however, Johnson faced perhaps an even greater obstacle than physical pain or injuries "” the military bureaucracy".
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Damn, in the NFL i don't think that a playerhas to return his signing bonus if he breaks his leg at mid-season, but a 19 year old kid that gets blown to hell by an IED does. What a crock.
I agree entirely. I just wish I had enough time and energyto explain to you just how littlefaith I have in many things military related from my experience, but I have given upas it just too draining.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:55 AM   #9
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Red,

You need to empty out your PM box.
Thanks, I had not received any PM's for a while and did not realize that it was full.
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