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Old 11-15-2007, 08:53 AM   #1
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Default 200 lashes for being being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape

and we think we can help this culture??????????

A court in the ultra-conservative kingdom of Saudi Arabia is punishing a female victim of gang rape with 200 lashes and six months in jail, a newspaper reported on Thursday.
The 19-year-old woman -- whose six armed attackers have been sentenced to jail terms -- was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape," the Arab News reported.
But in a new verdict issued after Saudi Arabia's Higher Judicial Council ordered a retrial, the court in the eastern town of Al-Qatif more than doubled the number of lashes to 200.
A court source told the English-language Arab News that the judges had decided to punish the woman further for "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."
Saudi Arabia enforces a strict Islamic doctrine known as Wahhabism and forbids unrelated men and women from associating with each other, bans women from driving and forces them to cover head-to-toe in public.
Last year, the court sentenced six Saudi men to between one and five years in jail for the rape as well as ordering lashes for the victim, a member of the minority Shiite community.
But the woman's lawyer Abdul Rahman al-Lahem appealed, arguing that the punishments were too lenient in a country where the offence can carry the death penalty.
In the new verdict issued on Wednesday, the Al-Qatif court also toughened the sentences against the six men to between two and nine years in prison.
The case has angered members of Saudi Arabia's Shiite community. The convicted men are Sunni Muslims, the dominant community in the oil-rich Gulf state.
Lahem, also a human rights activist, told AFP on Wednesday that the court had banned him from handling the rape case and withdrew his licence to practise law because he challenged the verdict.
He said he has also been summoned by the ministry of justice to appear before a disciplinary committee in December.
Lahem said the move might be due to his criticism of some judicial institutions, and "contradicts King Abdullah's quest to introduce reform, especially in the justice system."
King Abdullah last month approved a new body of laws regulating the judicial system in Saudi Arabia, which rules on the basis of sharia, or Islamic law.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:11 AM   #2
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I would suggest bombing them back to the stone age, but, that would be redundant. They're still there...

By the way, your headline is slightly misleading. She's not getting the lashes for being raped. She's getting the lashes for being in the car of an unrelated male and for ratting the court system out to the media...
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I stand corrected. Now it all makes sense.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:19 AM   #4
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The Shia in Saudi are treated like dirt. In a country that is filthy rich,the Shia are the poorest of the poor. They are not allowed to serve in the military. Much of their tribal owned oil lands have been stolen by the Saudi royal family. The Saudi royals are peeing all over themselves because the Shia are predominate in the oil rich Eastern Province.

If the Shia are successful in taking over Iraq; and it looks like they run the whole show there now, they will arm the the Shia inSaudi'sEastern Province and all hell will break loose.

The example that you citeis another fine example of sharia law, which is really not law at all. Everyone of stature in Saudi is exempt from "justice" includingthe 5,000 or so "princes." I first went to Saudi to work in 1981. It has gotten more and more crazy every year as the corrupt al Saudi family tries to appear more pious. The current king has totally unleashed the damned Mutawa, the religious police, on Saudi citizens. Just how an illiterate religious cop who cannot read his name in neon lights is supposed to dispense "justice" amazes me.

One day it is all going to come crashing down on the heads of the Saudi royals,as they leave the place like rats leaving a sinking ship, headedfor their villas in CA. Then they will demand that the US take their country back. Some dum butt US president will, of course, promptly oblige.


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Charlie P you do need to reword our title - its not true

Its a different culture, if you really thinks its bad, then support our "war" with Iraq because its an attempt to westernize those cultures. Else leave it alone and let the human rights attrocities continue eh ?
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I stand corrected. Now it all makes sense.
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It is not unusual for the Islamic "courts" in Saudi to punish a woman for being raped.

"Pakistani woman, jailed for being raped in Saudi Arabia, deported
Written by Haitham on 26. April 2006, 2209hrs // Part of Haitham's adventure in Human Rights, Saudi Arabia // Other posts by Haitham



[Source] Sixteen-year-old Isma Mahmood was deported to Pakistan last month after serving six months in shackles and handcuffs in a prison in Saudi Arabia. Her crime: being raped by a Saudi man.
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"It"s difficult for me to talk about what happened to me, from rape to prison and from prison to deportation," Isma said in the office of a rescue trust in Karachi where she sat with her sister Muna, 18, who was also deported.
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Isma"s parents, originally from the central Pakistani city of Multan, were trafficked to Saudi Arabia around 20 years ago.
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"I was the victim, I was raped and molested but I was named as the accused, and the man who committed the crime was not touched," she said, hiding her face with both hands in shame"
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The unnamed man warned her that she would be imprisoned if she went to police, and said that the Saudi sponsor who brought her parents to the country through a Pakistani agent would have them all expelled."
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LOL is that what it's about now, thanks for the update. Do you think this attempt will ever work BD?

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Else leave it alone and let the human rights attrocities continue eh ?
They will continue with us there or not.
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They will continue with us there or not.
they will only conitnue like that as long as sharia law is the form of govt in place...

House of Saud is about > < that far away from being in the midst of a revolution... the wealth separation between the ruling class and the peon's is akin to fuedal England... everyone in that coutry is dirt poor except those in charge... it'll only take a couple things to cause a revolution... virtually same thing will happen in Iran as well...

right now, our soon-to-be-big problem is Pakistan... start reading up on your intelligence reports, Pakistan is about to be a serious problem... Taliban is taking over provinces in that country without even shots being fired... police and military are simply allowing it to happen... and they are a Nuke power already with a current generation SAM defense system... the US (and other multinational forces in Afghanistan) is about to get squeezed and India is fearing for its very life... the entire mid-east is a powder keg, and it was long before we got there...
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right now, our soon-to-be-big problem is Pakistan...
How can that be?!? They are our best ally in the war on terror!

Bush said "When the Pakistani strongman "looks me in the eye" and says "there won"t be a Taliban and won"t be Al Qaeda," the president said, "I believe him." here

How on earth can this great ally of ours become a problem for us? They would never think of using the $10 billion in aid (mostly military) we have given them in the last 7 yearsagainst us, their best ally .
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