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Old 11-08-2007, 03:27 PM   #1
 
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I am glad I didn't vote for him..



"My message was that we believe strongly in elections and that you ought to have elections soon and you need to take off your uniform. You can't be the president and the head of the military at the same time," Bush told a news conference


What a freakin IDIOT.....
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:33 PM   #2
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So then I take it you believe it's OK for Musharraf to declare a "state of emergency", suspend rights and elections, and essentially make himself the dictator?
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So then I take it you believe it's OK for Musharraf to declare a "state of emergency", suspend rights and elections, and essentially make himself the dictator?
I believe Bush is an idiot is what the topic is about..
Would it be all right if Bush did that under the patriot act?
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:15 PM   #4
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Would it be all right if Bush did that under the patriot act?
If the U.S. were full of Pakistani al Qaeda sympathizers, I think the Patriot Act would indeed be a good thing. Pakistan is a dump. It is not a democracy and never has been. An idiot would be the kind of personwho tells athird world dictator to change his ways andbehave like an American president. Ehhh, not going to happen.

I wish the Pakistanis well, but I value our nation's freedom over theirs...
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:22 PM   #5
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Pakistan is alawless sewer. Always has been and always will be. There are too many different factions fighting each other. Pakistan is another of those "countries" wherelittle concept of a a national entity exists.Much of the "country" is ruled by tribal sheiks. Musharaff has been using the 1.5 billion dollars that we give him every year to line the pockets of his cronies and himself.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:48 PM   #6
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Musharrafia an Arschloch, but he's better than the Islamic fundamentalist alternative. Unfortunately, given the state of world and all that, we need all the help we can possibly get. Ideology doesn't save lives. Bargaining with dictatorsis a necessary evil.
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So then I take it you believe it's OK for Musharraf to declare a "state of emergency", suspend rights and elections, and essentially make himself the dictator?
I believe Bush is an idiot is what the topic is about..
Would it be all right if Bush did that under the patriot act?
That's a pretty big leap don't you think? What in the world makes you believe Bush is ready to institute marshall law? It's easy to call someone an "I D 10 T form" it's a whole nother story when your asked to back that up.

Hey "VC" being an old navy guy, remember that that form and the practical jokes?
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*cough*cough*nuke*cough*cough* j/k of course
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"Musharrafia an Arschloch, but he's better than the Islamic fundamentalist alternative."

MusharrafIS an Islamic fundamentalist. Islamic fundamentalism was introduced by the last military dictator of Pakistan, Zia al Haq. Musharraf is just following his example.

The US was dumb enough to get involved in the Afghan war and needed Zia's help. The Reagan and Bush I administrations are largely responsible for the mess in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

EDITED AND ADDED LATER: Forgot that it was Peanut Carter who started the whole mess.

Benazir Bhutto was placeed under house arrest today:

"ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistani police placed opposition leader Benazir Bhutto under house arrest Friday, uncoiling barbed wire in front of her Islamabad villa, and reportedly rounded up thousands of her supporters to block a mass protest against emergency rule."


"Muhammad Zia ul-Haq. [Source: Associated Press]General Mohammad Zia ul-Haq seized power in Pakistan in a 1977 coup and declared himself president. The US stopped all economic and military aid to Pakistan as a result of the coup and Zia ruled cautiously in an attempt to win international approval. But immediately after the Russian invasion of Afghanistan (see December 8, 1979), the US allies with Zia and resumes aid. This allows Zia to use Islam to consolidate his power without worrying about the international reaction. He passes pro-Islamic legislation, introduces Islamic banking systems, and creates Islamic courts. Most importantly, he creates a new religious tax which is used to create tens of thousands of madrassas, or religious boarding schools. These schools will indoctrinate a large portion of future Islamic militants for decades to come. [Gannon, 2005, pp. 138-142] Zia also promotes military officers on the basis of religious devotion. The Koran and other religious material becomes compulsory reading material in army training courses. "śRadical Islamist ideology began to permeate the military and the influence of the most extreme groups crept into the army,"ť journalist Kathy Gannon will write in her book I is for Infidel."
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So then I take it you believe it's OK for Musharraf to declare a "state of emergency", suspend rights and elections, and essentially make himself the dictator?
I believe Bush is an idiot is what the topic is about..
Would it be all right if Bush did that under the patriot act?
hahaha.... Yeah, Ok... He's an idiot because you disagree with his policies. Must be nice to be as smart as you. Care to post copies of your degrees from Harvard and Yale?

Oh.... and a citation to the specific provisions of the Patriot Act that would allow Bush to declare himself dictator. I won't hold my breath.
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