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Old 10-29-2007, 09:10 PM   #1
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1 in 10 schools are 'dropout factories'

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House and Senate proposals to renew the five-year-old No Child law would give high schools more federal money and put more pressure on them to improve, and the Bush administration supports the idea.
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Great, Washington's solution to every social ill: let's flush billions more down the toilet and check back in another decade.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:16 PM   #2
 
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A school has to have a 60% dropout rate to be a dropout factory? I would think 20% should be enough to earn the dubious distinction.

Wait, nevermind, that would just mean spending more tax dollars on a broken system.

I now think a 90% dropout rate would be more appropriate.

Spending more money on public education is like restoring a Vega. Sure, you can do it, but in the end it's still a Vega.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:01 PM   #3
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This is sickening....they cant do it on their own, so lets just give it to them.

"¢ Make sure schools report their graduation rates by racial, ethnic and other subgroups and are judged on those. That's to ensure schools aren't just graduating white students in high numbers, but also are working to ensure minority students get diplomas.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:22 AM   #4
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School Vouchers are the only way to go. We need to get rid of the indoctrination system we have today and introduce competition. That's how you fix the parents and get them involved in their kids lives. For the ones who don't care, oh well.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:55 AM   #5
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"Great, Washington's solution to every social ill: let's flush billions more down the toilet and check back in another decade."

This is another fine example of meddling bypolitical pukes. The federal government hasno business getting involved in education.

""¢ Make sure schools report their graduation rates by racial, ethnic and other subgroups and are judged on those. That's to ensure schools aren't just graduating white students in high numbers, but also are working to ensure minority students get diplomas."

Exactly!!! Yep,political hacks wantto dumb downmembers those of races that have a history of academic success.

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Old 10-30-2007, 06:40 AM   #6
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[align=center]Poor Education Prognosis
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Drs. Abigail and Stephen Thernstrom's new book No Excuses: Closing the Racial Gap in Learning shows that the government education that whites receive is nothing to write home about but for blacks it's no less than a disgraceful disaster.
According to National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) findings, only in writing do less than 40 percent of black high school students test "below basic." NAEP defines below basic as being unable to demonstrate even "partial mastery of prerequisite knowledge and skills that are fundamental for proficient work" at their grade. In math, 70 percent, and in science 75 percent of black students score below basic. Black high school graduates perform a little worse than white eighth-graders in both reading and U.S. history, and a lot worse in math and geography. The Thernstroms report, "In math and geography, indeed, they know no more than whites in the seventh grade." Finally, the Thernstroms conclude, "The employer hiring the typical black high school graduate (or the college that admits the average black student) is, in effect choosing a youngster who has made it only through the eighth grade."
University of Dayton Law School Professor Vernellia R. Randall has an essay on her web site titled "LSAT Discrimination and Minorities." The LSAT is an admissions test used at most law schools; a student can score between 120 and 180. Criticizing the use of the LSAT as an admissions criteria, Professor Randall says, "For example, based on a LSAT cut-off of 145, over 60% of black applicants will be presumptively denied, but only 20% of white applicants will be "presumptively denied." This, according to Professor Randall, is racial discrimination. It turns out that at top law schools such as University of Chicago, Yale and Harvard even if a student scored 165, that's better than 85 percent of test-takers, and had a GPA of 3.9 there's no guarantee of admission. At these law schools their lowest LSAT scores and GPAs are 168 and 3.5 and their highs are 174 and 3.9 respectively.
Let's connect the dots between the Thernstrom's evidence and Randall's complaint. The typical black student enters college well behind the typical white student. This is partially evidenced by the 2002 average SAT scores of black students (857) compared to white students (1060), a 200 point difference. The grossly poor twelve years of primary and secondary education that black students receive is not likely to be made up in four or five years of college if ever. Therefore, no one should be surprised by poor black performance on graduate admissions tests such as: LSAT, GRE and MCAT.
What makes the catchup even more unlikely is the soft bigotry of low expectations and affirmative action grading by white liberal professors and the selection by black students of touchy-feely curricula such as black studies, women studies, multicultural studies, education, and other curricula of little academic content and challenge.
There's no question that black students can compete academically but they face a perverse set of incentives. First, racial preferences in college admissions reduce the incentive to work as hard as they might in high school. The fact that colleges have race preferences in admissions helps conceal fraud at the government schools where they confer diplomas attesting that a student is proficient at the twelfth grade when in fact he might not be proficient at the eighth, ninth or tenth grade.
The irony and tragedy of this story is that the primary victims of fraudulent education give their allegiance to politicians and civil rights organizations, who've become hand-maidens of the education establishment, and fight against any measure that threatens accountability, competition and alternatives to government schools.
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hey, more focus AWAY from the parents ....... working great aint it ?
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hey, more focus AWAY from the parents ....... working great ain't it ?
Its not that I'm against parental rights or family support,its just that I question where the ability and capability to breed qualifies them all to become proper parents.
Reproduction seems to be achieved by even the most unfit of all of us.
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its just that I question where the ability and capability to breed qualifies them all to become proper parents.
you don't havea Right to pick and choose and judge the capability of other people parenting skills, do you ? Yet thats exactly whats happening, parents are being phased out of their jobs as parents, letting the village raise the kids right ?
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hey, more focus AWAY from the parents ....... working great ain't it ?
Its not that I'm against parental rights or family support,its just that I question where the ability and capability to breed qualifies them all to become proper parents.
Reproduction seems to be achieved by even the most unfit of all of us.
And then they are cuddled with welfare, free baby sitting until 18, and then free room and board in the state pen.
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