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Old 10-21-2007, 11:34 AM   #1
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Since they don't wear a uniform and don't have ID cards how do we actually know we have almost defeated them and how many we have killed in Iraq??
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:51 AM   #2
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Maybe you should ask the people we're paying to make the decision. However, seeing how they are said to live in 60 different countries, I'm not sure they would be totally eliminated.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:15 PM   #3
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To answer your questions, in large part it's a matter of tracking and analyzing movements of people, money,and equipmentfrom one organ of the groupto another on a national or international scale. If we can see their resources dwindling, we do the math.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:22 PM   #4
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This is basically what I'm talking about. How do the distinquish between an al Qaeda fighter and the average Shiiteor Sunni? Or is it basically like the movie Full Metal Jacket. "Anyone that runs is a VC anyone that doesn't run is a well disclpined VC."


The U.S. military has crippled, but not destroyed al Qaeda in Iraq , Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway said on Monday.
"I think that they significantly have been crippled," Conway said after a speech to the Center for a New American Security think tank.
"I think that's a fair word. I would not say destroyed, I would not say eliminated," he added.
Conway said the U.S. military had made great strides in recent months in Anbar province west of Baghdad, once an al Qaeda stronghold and the most dangerous place in Iraq for U.S. troops.
He said the province was far more secure now, thanks in part to the cooperation of local Iraqis in providing intelligence and work by special forces targeting al Qaeda.
But Conway stressed that al Qaeda elements had shown "an amazing ability to regenerate" and carry out sophisticated operations even after the loss of significant leaders.
"Are they crippled? Yeah. Are they still dangerous? Absolutely, and certainly they are not destroyed," Conway said.
The Washington Post on Monday reported the military believes it has dealt devastating blows to al Qaeda in Iraq and that some generals have advocated publicly declaring victory over the group.
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said on Monday that U.S. commanders in Iraq had cited progress but not described al Qaeda in Iraq as "defeated." (Reporting by Andrea Shalal-Esa and Kristin Roberts)
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:29 PM   #5
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This is basically what I'm talking about. How do the distinquish between an al Qaeda fighter and the average Shiiteor Sunni? Or is it basically like the movie Full Metal Jacket. "Anyone that runs is a VC anyone that doesn't run is a well disclpined VC."
Yeah, they pretty much all look the same, but they don't behave the same. When al Qaeda isn't hitting and running, they're acting like a bunch of organized criminals. And like we can with organized criminals, wetrack their movements, smuggling, and money laundering.

Not to mention that the most obvious sign of a weak terrorist group is the lack of operations they carry out, particularly when contrasted to the historical record.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:20 PM   #6
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they are usually the religious zealots are they not?
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:21 AM   #7
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You come around the corner and someone opens up on you are theyal Qaeda,insurgent or a ticked off Iraqi. Something tells me they are whatever the body count needs that day, don't know how you tell the difference. Can you tell a religious zealot during or after a fire fight?
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:46 AM   #8
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How about the mafia? They just look like other Italians, right?
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:48 AM   #9
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I don't know for a fact they were in Iraq. And it was Saudi's that flew into the WTC.
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how many we have killed in Iraq
You can bet your butt not enough. I think they have changed there tactics somewhat as they found out we had a killing ground when they concentrated in cities's you may remember. They are backing off for a while. How bad we hurt them I don't know. If the Iraq's ever take over there own country it will all be worth it. If we don't fold in the next election They just might.
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