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Old 10-19-2007, 06:23 PM   #1
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This is the way we should be.....instead we have become weak and gutless in America......

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those arot your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."
"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia ."
"However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."
"This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.""This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom""We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, ***anese, Russian, or any other language Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.""We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live inharmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted." [/align]
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:05 PM   #2
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This smells of a hoax, or urban legend...
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:14 PM   #3
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Whether this is true or not is up in the air. Either way, Australia has been a little more culturally homogenous than the U.S., and tensions between Anglo-Australians and more recent Middle Eastern immigrants are pretty high in some cities, especially since the Bali bombing. The situation is different in each country, so I don't see how one should necessarily follow the lead of another, particularlywhen it comes todomestic policy.
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:46 AM   #4
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According to Snopes.com it is true, see http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp.

Apparently in Australia they like blunt straight talking politicians, as Prime Minister Howard has been re-elected several times.

Quite a contrast to some of the weasels here who try to be all things to all people and run campaigns by political poll, changing with the sentiment of the hour.


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Old 10-20-2007, 10:11 AM   #5
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I think most Americans would like a polician like that also. It sucks to see all of ours cave in and watch as America is going down the drain. Try to stand up for Americans rights and watch the ACLU swoop in.
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Before you get too envious of our friends down under, remember that it is all but impossible to own a firearm legally there.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:19 AM   #7
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I saw a special on that a while back....When all the Ausies had to turn in their guns and then they cut them in half. It wasnt nice to watch. I think they were allowed to keep 1 single shot shotgun.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:09 AM   #8
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Sounds great, no freedom of religion, no freedom of speech, no right to bear arms, why cant we be more like them
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:44 AM   #10
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What's posted here and what is posted on Snopes are not the same are they?
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