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Should parents be held accountable
When their crazy kid gets a gun and shoots up a school? Or I should say, the preson who allowed the kid to get their hands on the weapons used. There are many guns at my house, but there is not a one my kids can get at. They are all under lock and key.
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RE: Should parents be held accountable
another question;
Should kids with known mental problems be allowed to attend school with the general population? I have had students that had no reason to be in my classes. They were not going to learn, and were nothing but a problem. But for some reason we worry more about the ED kids than we do the general population. Im not speaking of capable kids with mild problems, im talking about those kids that have been diagnosed as having major issues and have shown a disinterest in learning anything. Like ive said, ive had my share, and many I had to keep a close eye on because I could see them shooting up the school on any given moment. Its simply a waiting game. Will this kid hurt someone before they finally go to Juvie.
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I don't know that there is a bulk answer for this one burnie. I would say that if the parents did nothing to keep the guns locked up from their kids.
My dad has a gun safe and in that gun safe were some rifles that only shot blanks. They belong to the Legion as my dad is a color guard and marches in parades. Someone more likely than not one of my brothers broke into that safe and stole them. I will give you the safe probably wasn't the greatest quality but they still managed to break into it.
What is the biggest reason these kids are shooting up schools? Self esteem issues. The first thing you are told is the kid(s) got picked on alot. Now most will say that bullying has always been around and kids haven't always done this. True but the kids have lost the outlets they once had. How many kids duke it out in school? Not as many as used to. Communities are no longer raising children anymore and more kids are from either a one parent home or a two income family, thus leaving less time for family and establishing a trusting relationship. I believe all of these affect todays kids.
another question;
Should kids with known mental problems be allowed to attend school with the general population? I have had students that had no reason to be in my classes. They were not going to learn, and were nothing but a problem. But for some reason we worry more about the ED kids than we do the general population. Im not speaking of capable kids with mild problems, im talking about those kids that have been diagnosed as having major issues and have shown a disinterest in learning anything. Like ive said, ive had my share, and many I had to keep a close eye on because I could see them shooting up the school on any given moment. Its simply a waiting game. Will this kid hurt someone before they finally go to Juvie.
Here's my 2 cents...
Those kids aren't given a chance. They don't know what to do with those kids so they put them in school and not only do the techers have the stress of teaching 20 to 30 kids who all learn differently they now have to try and keep these kids from disrupting this process. It isn't fair to anyone. These kids need something called self respect before you can teach them anything. I think they need to be in boot camp type facilities, doing ranch work or farming, caring for animals, and such. Teach them self respect, and how to love themselves and then you can teach them just about anything.
another question;
Should kids with known mental problems be allowed to attend school with the general population? I have had students that had no reason to be in my classes. They were not going to learn, and were nothing but a problem. But for some reason we worry more about the ED kids than we do the general population. Im not speaking of capable kids with mild problems, im talking about those kids that have been diagnosed as having major issues and have shown a disinterest in learning anything. Like ive said, ive had my share, and many I had to keep a close eye on because I could see them shooting up the school on any given moment. Its simply a waiting game. Will this kid hurt someone before they finally go to Juvie.
Burnie, ohmygosh. How insensitive of you! What about their fragile little egos? What about their self esteem? YOu are hereby sentenced to spend a month in San Francisco for sensitivity training and tolerance re-education!
another question;
Should kids with known mental problems be allowed to attend school with the general population? I have had students that had no reason to be in my classes. They were not going to learn, and were nothing but a problem. But for some reason we worry more about the ED kids than we do the general population. Im not speaking of capable kids with mild problems, im talking about those kids that have been diagnosed as having major issues and have shown a disinterest in learning anything. Like ive said, ive had my share, and many I had to keep a close eye on because I could see them shooting up the school on any given moment. Its simply a waiting game. Will this kid hurt someone before they finally go to Juvie.
That is the leftist liberal motto, cater to a select few while ignoring the wishes of the majority. Don't worry, Hillary will make it all better.
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RE: Should parents be held accountable
Parents are responsible for their minor children. Looks like that latest case in Pa involved a parent who actually bought the gun for her 14 year old troubled kid. The kid will go Juvie but the parent should go to the slammer...or a mental hospital for stupidity. I live in a rural state where it is legal to carry concealed without a permit. If you own a hand gun you can carry it in plain sight or hidden. I had a female barber who knew I was a hunter and told me proudly that she just bought a revolver for her 15 year old kid. I asker her why since neither she nor her husband hunted and she said because all of his friends had them. The kid doesn't stand a chance with a simpleton like that for a mother and I told her so.
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When their crazy kid gets a gun and shoots up a school? Or I should say, the preson who allowed the kid to get their hands on the weapons used. There are many guns at my house, but there is not a one my kids can get at. They are all under lock and key.
No, the parents should not necessarily be held responsible for a child's behavior in such cases. But if they gave the kid a deadly weapon or allowed unrestricted access to it, it would be difficult story.
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another question;
Should kids with known mental problems be allowed to attend school with the general population? I have had students that had no reason to be in my classes. They were not going to learn, and were nothing but a problem. But for some reason we worry more about the ED kids than we do the general population. Im not speaking of capable kids with mild problems, im talking about those kids that have been diagnosed as having major issues and have shown a disinterest in learning anything. Like ive said, ive had my share, and many I had to keep a close eye on because I could see them shooting up the school on any given moment. Its simply a waiting game. Will this kid hurt someone before they finally go to Juvie.
My feelings are basically this: education is not a right; and kids should not be required to attend school period. Public schools in particular are full of kids who have no business being there, and these people can really slow things down for the rest of the students. I have absolutely no sympathy for them. If they can't conduct themselves in a respectful manner, they need to get outand stay out until they can.
But for some reason we worry more about the ED kids than we do the general population.
Kids with erectile disfunction? No wonder they have low self esteems.[8D]
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I think in most cases parents can be held responsible. There are kids though, who are simply out of control.
My mother took responsibility for everything I did. And she made sure I stayed straight or there were serious consequences. But I accepted the fact that she was in charge and responsible for me. Not all kids do.
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