Does this bother you?

[bslugnut]

Professional athletes should stop trying to support Vick! I was told, but did not see it...But, apparently there was PETA rep on the Today show saying how obsurde it was to compare dog fighting to deer hunting! I would like to see that clip myself! This is an artcle from our local paper:
The topic was Michael Vick, his dog fighting ring and his abuse and murder of defenseless animals. The large majority of the e-mailers and callers agree that Vick, quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons, deserves the maximum sentence allowed, five years in a federal prison, and should be banned for life from the NFL.
Some, though, make the same point that New York Knicks guard Stephon Marbury made this week.
Marbury said, "We don't say anything about people who shoot deers and shoot other animals. You know what I mean?"
Others have called or written to say that hundreds of animals are killed every day in humane shelters.
These are arguments, but they are not valid arguments. What Vick did was different from anything that takes place in the woods during deer hunting season and anything that happens in an animal shelter.
To attempt to justify Vick's behavior by comparing him to people and organizations that treat animals humanely and with love and affection is offensive.
Besides that, not all shelters control their animal populations through euthanization. The shelter operated by the Richmond SPCA is a "no-kill" operation. Every healthy animal that is taken in stays there until a suitable home is found.
The Richmond SPCA shelter cares for and finds homes for between 3,300 and 3,500 animals a year. The longest any animal has stayed there is 13 months.
The goal of the Richmond SPCA is to have Richmond become a "no-kill" community. The organization began a program in 2001 to try to achieve that.
"At the Richmond SPCA, we don't take the life of any animal in our care, other than in the same circumstances that responsible pet owners would euthanize their own pets," said Robin Starr, the chief executive officer of the Richmond SPCA. "That's less than 1 percent of the animals that come through our shelter."
Other cities and humane organizations across the country hope to achieve the same thing, another distinction between Vick's treatment of animals and the treatment animals receive in shelters.
"In 2006, no healthy, homeless animals were euthanized anywhere in Richmond," Starr said. "Richmond was the fourth safest city in the country for homeless animals."
I am deeply offended by someone attempting to draw an analogy between Michael Vick's sustained, deliberate course of torture and the euthanizing that is done in shelters.
Hunters also are deeply incensed that what they do is being compared to what took place at Vick's compound in Surry County.
"That is absurd, just crazy," said W.D. "Denny" Quaiff, executive director of the Virginia Deer Hunters Association. "Hunters are animal lovers and conservationists.
"What he's done is not anything we condone in any way, shape or form."
Not everyone is a fan of hunting, but deer hunting is a form of game management. Without it, there would be an overpopulation of deer, making the animals more prone to disease and starvation.
An overpopulation of deer also would increase problems that already exist with a controlled deer population: issues with commercial farming, private gardens, the presence of deer in urban areas and automobile accidents.
Deer hunters who do not eat what they harvest contribute more than 300,000 pounds of venison annually to the Hunters for the Hungry program in Virginia. Hunters for the Hungry is a nationwide program.
"What hunters do is in no way comparable to what he [Vick] did," Quaiff said.
Hunting is legal and regulated by the state. Hunters do not pit one deer against another in a grisly duel to the death.
What Vick, his cohorts and all dogfighters do is in no way comparable to anything that decent, humane people do. To try to justify it by comparing Vick to hunters or the people who work in animal shelters, whose hearts break a bit every time an animal is euthanized, is impossible.
Vick's actions are beyond defense.
Contact Paul Woody at (804) 649-6444 or pwoody@timesdispatch.com.

Thank you,
BSLugnut

I love dogs, I have two. But think people should worry more about people, instead of worrying thier little heads off about dogfighting. It amazes me how little compassion people have for each other, the poor, but will sit and hold signs trying to make examples of Vick. Just shows how people really have thier priorities really screwed up today. They don't know what's up or what's down. They could care less about the unborn children murdered everyday in clinics. They sleep sound at night with thier big trucks/SUV's in thier garage, but holy cow, somebody was hurting a dog, lets freak out and put all the media attention on them. Vick should face charges, and he is. But goodness, he'sa football player, nothing more.

[Ol JohnnyBoy]

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

I love dogs, I have two. But think people should worry more about people, instead of worrying thier little heads off about dogfighting. It amazes me how little compassion people have for each other, the poor, but will sit and hold signs trying to make examples of Vick. Just shows how people really have thier priorities really screwed up today. They don't know what's up or what's down. They could care less about the unborn children murdered everyday in clinics. They sleep sound at night with thier big trucks/SUV's in thier garage, but holy cow, somebody was hurting a dog, lets freak out and put all the media attention on them. Vick should face charges, and he is. But goodness, he'sa football player, nothing more.

Man you hit the nail on the head with that one. Society is twisted.

[burniegoeasily]

Does this bother you?

No, what bothers me is, Fat hairy guys in tank tops.





Actually, I think what he did is horrific. But I think the atrocities that some humans unleash on others merits much more disgust. Not to lessen the distain for Vick, just saying I have plenty of discontent for the human element harming other humans. Never will I justify, or lessen, the acts Vick pursued by some how justifying them with the logic that, "Well people treat other people badly, so why get all bent out of shape over this". Bad acts are ranked on their own, relatively. neither can be used to lessen another. Or at least in my view. Sorry for a micro rant, I just had to vent. It seems that some in the media, are trying to justify his actions by the actions of others. I feel what he was doing is pathalogical behavior, and something that merits attention.

Bigcountry
If Vick was not a celeb. we wouldnt be hearing much about it. I dont think the attention is due to the offense as much as it has to do with a star.

As for Peta, well Peta is Peta. Not much more to say.

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
Bigcountry
If Vick was not a celeb. we wouldnt be hearing much about it. I dont think the attention is due to the offense as much as it has to do with a star.

I think its both. Look at all the players that get convicted of drunk driving. A few has actually caused death of innocent people. Never get the coverage like vick did. And drunk driving like these people do is much more horrific offense than dog fighting.

Like I said people get emotional over pets but neglects people. Its a warped world.

[BenGarrett]

Three things: 1.) Vick's crimes disgust me. Animal fighting in general is disgusting. Executing animals in the manner he did because they under-performed is even worse.

2.) The outcry is a little ridiculous. Look at Leonard Little. He was drunk, ran a red-light and killed a pregnant woman. And he was back in the NFL within months. I think Vick is probably being treated unfairly by those calling for his head but willing to turn their back on more heinous crimes, but I also think the NAACP is absurd for basically defending his actions (and it still strikes me as the ultimate irony that we have folks who will march in the streets for the right to kill a partially-born baby by stabbing scissors through its skull, yet want Vick to serve jail time for killing animals).

3.) I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm not a huge NFL fan, but I am a huge football fan, and enjoy watching preseason games to pass the time to the college football openers. I can't watch them because all the commentators on every game have talked about this entire preseason is Michael Vick. On Monday, the game was going on on the field for 15 minutes while the commentators talked non-stop about Vick and never once mentioned the game. Get over it already!

[burniegoeasily]

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

I think its both. Look at all the players that get convicted of drunk driving. A few has actually caused death of innocent people. Never get the coverage like vick did. And drunk driving like these people do is much more horrific offense than dog fighting.

Like I said people get emotional over pets but neglects people. Its a warped world.

You got a point. I would assume then, that people are more protective of pets, since pets are pretty much inoccent. Pets and Kids will get people acting a full.

[mudhead1s wife]

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

You got a point. I would assume then, that people are more protective of pets, since pets are pretty much inoccent. Pets and Kids will get people acting a full.

Here is an example of what Big Country was talking about....
Her name is Patty Wetterling and she has a boy named Jacob who was kidnapped when I was really little. She has ran for office the past 2 elections and thank the Lord she never won. I have to admit she has done some wonderful things for children and their families but at the same time she is pro-choice. She will only protect a child if it is born, if not oh well. That is the warped and twisted mind of most of society.

This is the conclusion that Josh and I came to... We could make a baby and abort and most people wouldn't care, but if we had a dog who was going to have babies and we aborted the puppies that would get tongues wagging!

Don't get me wrong I believe that we should care for animals but I feel a human life should be more important than that of an animal. How would someone feel if their house was on fire and the fire fighters first went to go and get the animals, then the children, then the dad first because the mom is pregnant and unborn babies just aren't a priority. There needs to be a balance. This in a sense isthe message thatPeta and the media are giving and it's dead wrong!

[burniegoeasily]

You know what is now become crazy? The very thing I was posting about earlier in this post. Im getting the sense that some are trying to justify, or down play the attorcities Vick had done. Remember, it was not just dog fighting. And agian, like I posted earlier,each hanis act is of its own. Because some sick SOB will abort a child and never lose a moment sleep, does not make Vicks actions any more paletable. Not to say that we should not be sickened by the acts portrayed by humans on humans. Agian, they stand on their own. And yes, those acts sicken me way more than Vicks. This is big news because of one reason. The almighty NFL is involved and a major figure of the sport was the criminal. Its like they use to tell us when I was in college, "You better be on your best behaviour, because you are an NCAA athlete, and if you do the slightest thing wrong, it will make headlines." They stressed this on many occasions. If you are in the spot light, the media loves to bring you down. Face it, America enjoys train wrecks.


Besides, why/when/where has the comparison between dog fighting and abortion/murder/rape been made in the news? I know yall are sick due to the lack of attention, but agian, I stand by the notion that it is all about his status and has nothing to do with dogs. Ive seen many athletes I competted with or agianst, that screw up and make national news. Hell, we had a guy at Texas Tech that was caught stealing fire wood from a wood pile behind a residence. That little bit ofinfo made national news. Was it because America cares so much more about wood instead of humans? no. It was about an Athlete screwing up. Nothing more, nothing less. And yes, he was punished more harsh than anyone in the general public would have. He got a theft charge, and his scholarship pulled. And before our race baiters chime in, he was a white football player.

I just love the line of logic that states that if something more horrible takes place and gets less media attention, the major story is some how exonerated. Is not every bad act, just that, bad. Why lessen one, because others that are worse are not getting the coverage. I will admit, im sick of hearing about it. But as long as it involves a major figure, it will make headlines. Same as when a politician gets a little cookie on the side. Its in all the papers, where as joe smoe could cheat all day on his wife and never make news. And yes, politicians will get more headlines than a rapest or murderer. Because of this fact, does not make the rapest or murderer any less horried. Media coverage does not make the crime. The crime standes by its self.

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

You know what is now become crazy? The very thing I was posting about earlier in this post. Im getting the sense that some are trying to justify, or down play the attorcities Vick had done. Remember, it was not just dog fighting.

Attrocities? Hanus? Your freakin kidding me man.Sodam Hussien gassing thousands of people are atrocities, Hitler, taking train loads of people to the gas chamber is an atrocity. Again, and again, it has been said, he has broke the law, do the time. End of story. Nobody in the least has justified what he did, but thinking the NFL and bunny huggers are going overboard? You bet.