"Bush, who has rejected Iraq-Vietnam comparisons in the past, linked the U.S. pullout back then to the rise of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Foreign policy analysts took issue with Bush. "The president emphasized the violence in the wake of American withdrawal from Vietnam. But this happened because the United States left too late, not too early," said Steven Simon, a Mideast expert at the Council on Foreign Relations. "It was the expansion of the war that opened the door to (Khmer Rouge leader) Pol Pot and the genocide of the Khmer Rouge. The longer you stay, the worse it gets."
I guess there are some parallels to be made. Bush made one. Does that mean there could be more?[8D]
RE: I thought everyone said there was no comparison?
""It was the expansion of the war that opened the door to (Khmer Rouge leader) Pol Pot and the genocide of the Khmer Rouge. The longer you stay, the worse it gets.""
The US supported Pol Pot and his gang of murderers because they opposed the Vietnamese.Supporting Pol Pot was the most shameful thing that the US ever did.
"When Vietnam intervened in Cambodia and drove the Pol Potists from power in January 1972, Washington took immediate steps to preserve the Khmer Rouge as a guerrilla movement. International relief agencies were pressured by the U.S. to provide humanitarian assistance to the Khmer Rouge guerrillas who fled into Thailand. For more than a decade, the Khmer Rouge have used the refugee camps they occupy as military bases to wage a contra-war in Cambodia. According to Linda Mason and Roger Brown, who studied the relief operations in Thailand for Cambodian refugees:"
RE: I thought everyone said there was no comparison?
The big difference is that when we withdrew from Vietnam we were done there in terms of armed conflict. But, i think that we are winning the peace since in a generation or two they will be up to their necks in McDonalds too. On the other hand, i think that our kids, grandkids, etc. will be fighting in the middle east off an on while we are all in the nursing home waiting for our enemas.
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RE: I thought everyone said there was no comparison?
The comparison has always been made by both sides with both sides denying it as a comparison.
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RE: I thought everyone said there was no comparison?
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ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche
The big difference is that when we withdrew from Vietnam we were done there in terms of armed conflict. But, i think that we are winning the peace since in a generation or two they will be up to their necks in McDonalds too. On the other hand, i think that our kids, grandkids, etc. will be fighting in the middle east off an on while we are all in the nursing home waiting for our enemas.
If history is true then peace in the middle east is something that my not ever be achieved.
This to me is where wya's nativity comes into play. Iraq is to Bush what China was to Nixon.
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ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche
The big difference is that when we withdrew from Vietnam we were done there in terms of armed conflict. But, i think that we are winning the peace since in a generation or two they will be up to their necks in McDonalds too. On the other hand, i think that our kids, grandkids, etc. will be fighting in the middle east off an on while we are all in the nursing home waiting for our enemas.
If history is true then peace in the middle east is something that my not ever be achieved.
This to me is where wya's nativity comes into play. Iraq is to Bush what China was to Nixon.
Nixon sent U.S. troops into China and condemned us to a protracted, no-win situation?
RE: I thought everyone said there was no comparison?
I have, for one, said there are some valid comparisons between Iraq & Vietnam, as well as some invalid comparisons. The communists would not have won if the US would not have pulled out & (a really big and) congress would not have cut off support to the South Vietnamese government.
The battle for Iraq is to keep the resources of that country from being used to further islamist jihadism. The islamist jihadis have already demonstrated that they would use Iraq & it's resources to support strikes around the world & right here in the US.
I thought everyone said there was no comparison?
