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Old 08-16-2007, 08:20 AM   #1
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Default I've discovered why this counry is producing fat people

Throughout the past 2-1/2 months of nearly non-stop cancer research, I've come across some startling discoveries and eye-popping truths. (For those of you who don't know, my two-year old daughter has brain cancer.)

Yes, I have always been pro-conspiracy theory due to my knowledge of the new age movement and Biblical prophecy - it has been fun to learn new things over the years about "what is really going on" and how it all seems to tie together. For example, the global warming lie will have a dramatic and profound impact on the eventual collapse of many nations' economies including ours, etc.

Anyway, on to the point of this thread....


I've know for years that fake sweeteners (aspartame, nutrasweet, etc.) are converted into grain alcohol when digested by the body which is a severe nerve damaging agent, and that aspartame actually makes one crave bad carbs. (Dont' believe me? Next time you're in the supermarket make it a point to see what's in the obese lady's cart - you'll more than likely find diet soda along with sugar-packed snacks.) I've also known for years about the dangers of MSG or hydrogenated oils. I've never really tied all these bad things into the entire picture before now though.

It finally dawned on me that in order to dumb down a population, one has to make it almost impossible to eat healthy. Nutrtion, or malnutrition in most cases, can be linked to many of the top killer diseases that plague this country. Make the country dumb and fat and what do you have?

The typical American diet is highly acidic, high in sugar content, and high in bad fats and MSG with little attention to whole foods. There are literally hundreds of ways to become diseased through eating whether it be eating the wrong foods and simply ingesting disease-causing ingredients you have no clue about.

Bad stuff to avoid (a very short list, but the top dogs for killing people):
- Fake sweeteners
- Refined sugars
- Table salt (sea salt is great)
- MSG (disguised as over 25 different names including "Natural Flavorings", most restaurants/snack makers put it on the food to get you addicted and coming back)
- Hydrogenated fats (corn oil, vegetable oil, etc)



If you have the time and don't beleive me that these things are making this nation stupid and obese, and are killing hundreds of thousands of people each year, then do some digging of your own. My point to this thread is to make people think about what they are taking into their bodies.

A few links:

[link]http://www.dldewey.com/foodsno.htm[/link] Be sure to scroll down and click on "Hydrogenated Oils-Silent Killers" for some great reading.


PubMed Type in "MSG Obese" in the search line and see just how much the medical industry and our politicians know what this stuff does.
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:27 AM   #2
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Don't forget the central role of Chinese buffets in fattening up America. I think that it is a vast, complex plot by the Chinese communists to weaken us.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:58 PM   #3
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"I think that it is a vast, complex plot by the Chinese communists to weaken us."

Maybe it is a plot by lazy a$$ed Americans who do not want to exercise or cook at home.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:26 PM   #4
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It is more than that. I can't figure out how they get their chicken so tender.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:06 PM   #5
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I have much to say about this.

Later though. Gotta finish my twinkies.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:07 PM   #6
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"I can't figure out how they get their chicken so tender."

Radiation and MSG.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:45 PM   #7
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everyone laugh it up, make your stupid little twinkie joke, let this thread slide to the bottom and forget about it, and when your child comes down with cancer, or your'e disgnosed with it yourself and then scramble to read up on why cancer is ,you'll maybe remember this thread by badshotbob and wonder if there was truth to it

I've said it for years, very, very few slim people drink diet drinks. There is something in there that makes people fat either by making them hungry for fat making foods.

Artifical sweeteners is another pet peave.

Look, excercise, and do it daily. If you're smoking, quit. Chewing, quit. Excessive alcohol, quit. If you're fat, lose weight. Eat only small portions of healthy food. Spend the extra money, its your health we're talking about here. Drink water, lots of it. Don't let butter freak you out. Or whole milk, or bacon, or fried foods. None of that is bad, unless you sit down at a buffet, gorge yourself, do it twice a week and never excercise and THEN its going to eventually kill you.

If you're unhealthy, you'll be sick, often. You'll be sluggish and slow, low energy. You'll suffer mentally as well as physically.

Look, don't enjoy food. Don't love it. Gluttony is a sin. Eat it to keep your body healthy and alive.


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Old 08-16-2007, 04:43 PM   #8
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everyone laugh it up, make your stupid little twinkie joke, let this thread slide to the bottom and forget about it, and when your child comes down with cancer, or your'e disgnosed with it yourself and then scramble to read up on why cancer is ,you'll maybe remember this thread by badshotbob and wonder if there was truth to it
Lighten up, cowboy. We're only just getting started here. Furthermore, any information as to the precise causes of cancer usually falls squarely within the realm of speculation.

As to twinkies, I've forgotten more about nutrition and excercise than you'll ever be able to provide on this thread. I've been a runner for nearly three decades and was a marathoner for many years. I've read more than the average person will read on the subject in several lifetimes.

As to all of the above, people have the right to make the choices that they think are appropriate for themselves and their children. There is, if anything, far too much emphasis in this country on superficial appearances. Yes, health is very important. So is the avoidance of being the type to decide what a person is like by looking at his or her waistline...and the preaching to others of how they should behave and even eat.

The world has changed. That fruit you're eating could be genetically altered. It may be the cause of some of the cancer we hear and read about daily.

Lastly, look at the actuarial tables relating to mortality specifically as to being "overweight" and look at how they've changed in just the last few decades. They are more liberal now than they were 30 years ago. Doesn't mean being obese is healthy; it does mean that in the past it was something about which many supposedly knowledgable people over-reacted.

This board has had other threads with the same judgemental overtones as your post, Big Duane. Maybe that's normal, I don't know. But I do know this...I'd rather associate with someone overweight and virtuous than lean and judgemental.

We are all flawed, somehow, some way.

Want proof? Look at the divorce rates. So which harms kids more? The provision of an occasional twinkie, or the lack of a father or mother?

Keep it in perspective.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:16 PM   #9
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You know my uncle and I was discussing this when I was home for his wife's funeral.She died of cancer a month ago.Lady was fit as a fiddle. Never ate any of those things on the list. She was the most health conscience person I knew. Going wild for her was eating two cookies at Christmas parties.

I think the cancer thing has alot more to do with enviroment. Think about it. My great grandparents all lived well past 80years old. And they were coal miners and loggers. All they ever drank was water/milk. And back then the water was so pure I bet right out most streams. I bet you could catch a catfish in most rivers and it was fine to eat. They didn't have any extra chemicals in thier diets. They didn't have massive amounts of RF signals running thru thier bodies day after day.From the whole RF spectrum gambit. If one has ever looked at a FCC RF chart, you won't believe the radiation we areexposed too every day.They wasn't exposed day after day to massive UV rays from the sun. They sweated gallons a day. Rarely do too many people sweat for a living. Everybody knows that you flush out impurities with sweat. Man was not made to sit behind a desk all day.

I sure don't think its a conspiracy, I think its biblical, all coming together. Paul mentions in 1 Corintheans 3 this.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "œHe catches the wise in their own craftiness"; 20 and again, "œThe LORD knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."

The things that we tried so much to advance our lives and science is killing us, making us slaves to it. It sucks you in.

My wife and I have been trying to eat healthy these days. And its expensive and labor intensive for us to make healthy foods.


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Old 08-17-2007, 07:32 AM   #10
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"The things that we tried so much to advance our lives and science is killing us, making us slaves to it. It sucks you in."

Bingo. After being refused by seven different states, Lawtonhas it's very own cardboard recycling plant. The city council gave them a one time good deal if they would locate here. The place uses monstrous amounts of water thatthey buy for much less than residential homes do: This in an area that has very iffy rainfall. Sometimes the stench from the place is overwhelming.
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