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Old 07-27-2007, 08:56 AM   #1
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FBI chief rebuts Gonzales' testimony
Hospital meeting was about NSA program, Mueller tells panel
By Dan Eggen and Paul Kane
The Washington Post
July 27, 2007
WASHINGTON



[/align]FBI Director Robert Mueller on Thursday contradicted the sworn testimony of his boss, Atty. Gen. Alberto Gonzales, by telling Congress that a prominent warrantless surveillance program was the subject of a dramatic legal debate within the Bush administration.

Mueller's testimony appears to mark the first public confirmation from a Bush administration official that the National Security Agency's Terrorist Surveillance Program was at issue in an unusual nighttime visit by Gonzales to the hospital bedside of then-Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft when he was under sedation and recovering from surgery.

Mueller's remarks to the House Judiciary Committee about that contentious meeting differed from testimony earlier in the week from Gonzales, who told a Senate panel that a legal disagreement aired at the hospital did not concern the NSA program. Details of the program, kept secret for four years, were confirmed by President Bush in December 2005, provoking wide controversy on Capitol Hill.

"The discussion was on a national -- an NSA program that has been much discussed, yes," Mueller said in response to a question from Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas). Mueller also told another lawmaker that he had serious reservations about the warrantless wiretapping program.

His testimony presents a new problem for the beleaguered attorney general, whose credibility has come under attack from Democrats and some Republicans who say Gonzales deceived them on a myriad of topics, ranging from the NSA program to events surrounding the firings of nine U.S. attorneys.

"He tells the half-truth, the partial truth and anything but the truth," said Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) as he and three other Democrats on the Judiciary Committee asked the Justice Department to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate whether Gonzales lied to Congress about the NSA program.

Complicating the administration's predicament, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) issued subpoenas Thursday to White House adviser Karl Rove and one of his deputies, J. Scott Jennings, demanding their testimony by Aug. 2 as part of the panel's long-running investigation into the prosecutor firings and the alleged politicization of Justice Department career personnel jobs. The White House has refused previous such requests, prompting House lawmakers to move toward criminal contempt citations.

Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said in a statement that Gonzales' testimony on the NSA program has been accurate, but that "confusion is inevitable when complicated classified activities are discussed in a public forum."

"The disagreement that occurred in March 2004 concerned the legal basis for intelligence activities that have not been publicly disclosed and that remain highly classified," Roehrkasse said.

But other officials, including Mueller and several Democratic lawmakers who were briefed on the NSA's activities, say the TSP program, or some part of it, was at the heart of the dispute.

Mueller declined at the hearing to discuss Gonzales' statements on the topic. "I really can't comment on what Judge Gonzales was thinking or saying," he said. "I can tell you what I understood at the time."

Mueller's testimony is particularly striking in light of his opposition to Gonzales' view of the matter at issue during the 2004 legal dispute. Then-Acting Atty. Gen. James Comey sought Mueller's help in ensuring that an FBI security detail did not evict Comey from Ashcroft's hospital room during the joint visit by Gonzales, then White House counsel, and Andrew Card, then the White House chief of staff.

Mueller was not present during the hospital visit but testified Thursday that Ashcroft briefed him on the conversation. He repeatedly said he agreed with Comey's version of events, which included testimony that Mueller, Ashcroft, Comey and others were prepared to quit if the program went ahead without changes to render it legal.

Bush agreed to make the changes after he met with Mueller and discussed the objections Mueller shared with Comey, according to Comey's account. Mueller conveyed that promise to Comey.

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Old 07-27-2007, 08:59 AM   #2
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Yeah, but Mueller wasn't even in the room.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:04 AM   #3
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Yeah, but Mueller wasn't even in the room.
Ya gotta read the whole sentence

Mueller was not present during the hospital visit but testified Thursday that Ashcroft briefed him on the conversation.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:15 AM   #4
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Like I said he wasn't even in the room.

You also need to read the article:
Mueller's testimony appears to mark the first public confirmation from a Bush administration official that the National Security Agency's Terrorist Surveillance Program was at issue in an unusual nighttime visit by Gonzales to the hospital bedside of then-Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft when he was under sedation and recovering from surgery.

Also these wire taps aren't illegal and have been done before at a time of war. If they are illegal, how come no legal action has succeeded against them to date?
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:24 AM   #5
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Like I said he wasn't even in the room.

You also need to read the article:
Mueller's testimony appears to mark the first public confirmation from a Bush administration official that the National Security Agency's Terrorist Surveillance Program was at issue in an unusual nighttime visit by Gonzales to the hospital bedside of then-Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft when he was under sedation and recovering from surgery.

Also these wire taps aren't illegal and have been done before at a time of war. If they are illegal, how come no legal action has succeeded against them to date?
But he was lucid enough for alberto to want him to sign off, right?

We're talking about alberto's crediblity, not the legality of wire taps. Like others, he has none.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:28 AM   #6
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No were talking about a witch hunt and nothing more. Please tell me after all the millions spent and time wasted, exactly what laws were broke? Have they even found one?
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So you believe that alberto is a competent and credible AG?
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Well he's no Janet Reno that's for sure.

Please tell me where he has screwed up? Where has he broken the law?
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:07 AM   #10
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Sure why not I ask you. Where has he screwed up? He's got a bull eye on him due to partisan politics nothing more. They have spent millions of our tax dollars and can't come up with anything. Now they are left with going after a made up purgery claim? They're grasping at straws and it shows in the record low aproval ratings. The funny thing is they blame the Iraqi's for getting nothing done on the political front.
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