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Old 07-25-2007, 10:43 AM   #1
 
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During Monday's Democratic debate, a couple of lesbians asked the candidates via a YouTube video, "Would you let us marry?" And with the exception of Bill Richardson, who said he opposes gay marriages but supports civil unions, they all fell all overthemselves to say "Yes, I would let you marry."

As I watched them all say, "Yes, I would let you marry," as if it were solely their decision, I had a good belly-laugh. Not one of them said, "No, I wouldn't let you marry because it isn't my decision. The president of the United States doesn't issue marriage licenses. Marriage is a state institution, not a federal institution. The only way I could let you marry is with the support of two-thirds of the members of Congress and ratification from two-thirds of the state so that we could change the constitution to require states to recognize same-sex marriages."

And of course the Democratic candidates are still proving how out-of-touch with average Americans they are, since they talk about gay marriage as if it is a foregone conclusion that we're going to remain a country in the dark ages until we allow it, and all the while Americans are voting overwhelmingly state-by-state to reject gay marriage.

When I watch the candidates the Democrats have put forth for the populous to choose from, I can't help but think that the Republicans are their own worst enemy and the Democrats' best friend since the GOP's actions may very well put a Democrat into the White House (not that the Republican front-runners are any better ).
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:55 AM   #2
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good point Ben.

The republican party is in such a quagmire (that i generally blame on "you know who") because, either they try to support the president to maintain party cohesion and perhaps keep their base, which is not going to be enough. Or, they denounce the presidents policy and admit that we need to withdraw and risk splitting the party.But perhaps this is just what the country needs. More than two parties. It might be an alternative option.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:00 AM   #3
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Hope this WMD weapon of mass distraction isn'ta big deal when election time comes
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Hope this WMD weapon of mass distraction isn'tÂ*a big deal when election time comes
It isn't a "weapon of mass distraction," as some of you guys seem to like to refer to any social issue. It's an issue that very much drives folks from either side to the polls, as state referendums in recent years have proven. No, it's as much a real issue as gun control is.
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It's not a top priorty in this country. I believe we need to worry about so many other things.

What % of the population is gay 1-2%?
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It is not the top priority, but it is an important issue. Since (if) 1-2% of the population is gay, it shouldn't be an issue at all. So why is it?
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As long as people keep voting for candidates over aboriton, gay marriage, and other such issues our country is going to keep having problems. National Defense, Economics, Foreign Policy these are the things people should be worrying about. I'd say there's a reason that the founders made our system the way it is 1) By letting the states have a lot of power, you give the people the right to show their opinion by moving to a state that has different views 2) Because the Federal government has much more important stuff to worry about than who's marrying who, etc.
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It is not the top priority, but it is an important issue. Since (if) 1-2% of the population is gay, it shouldn't be an issue at all. So why is it?
Because people like you make it an important issue ?
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No, i do not like gay marriage. However, gay marriage is kind of a red herring issue. Look at what the Republican congressdid last year. They failed to pass the budget. They failed on immigration reform. The House failed to pass any meaningful lobbying reform. Some House members even defended lobbyist provided junkets: "It saves the government money."

The place was falling down on their shoulders andthe Republicanstrotted out theirso-called "American Values Agenda" that contained proposed legislation on gay marriage, flag burning and a host ofother feel good stuff. Well it did't work.

i just hope that the next time the Republican party is able to control both houses of congress and the presidency that they will do something besides harpon feel good stuff, invade other nations without due cause and give taxbreaks that drive the national debt out of sight. Personally,ithink that it will be a very long time before Republicans can capture both the legislative and executive branches. For sure they botched it this time.
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allows and accepting homosexuality is right at the top of my list of " things a candidate can do to lose my vote "

of course, all Democrats have lost my votes already
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