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Old 06-30-2007, 10:44 AM   #1
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Default OSHA is proposing a rule that will put more restrictions on getting ammo/powder/etc.:

Some one posted this on my forum a few days ago. This could have a major impact on ammo & reloading components as well as possessing them. Smokeless powders have traditionally been classified as propellants classifying them as explosives will change life as we know it. I will affect how it is sold, shipped, handled in stores. It will also determine how much you will be allowed to have. It will be interesting what BATF will do if OSHA redefines smokeless powders.


OSHA is proposing a rule that will put more restrictions on getting ammo/powder/etc.:

"Explosive. This term would be defined to mean any device, or liquid
or solid chemical compound or mixture, the primary or common purpose of
which is to function by explosion. The term ``explosive'' would be
defined to include all material included as a Class 1 explosive by DOT
in accordance with 49 CFR chapter I. The term would include, but would
not be limited to, dynamite, black powder, pellet powders, detonators,
blasting agents, initiating explosives, blasting caps, safety fuse,
fuse lighters, fuse igniters, squibs, cordeau detonant fuse,
instantaneous fuse, igniter cord, igniters, pyrotechnics, special
industrial explosive materials, small arms ammunition, small arms
ammunition primers, smokeless propellant, cartridges for propellant-
actuated power devices, and cartridges for industrial guns.

Paragraph (c)(1)(ii) would require the employer to ensure that only
persons trained in accordance with paragraph (j) of this section handle
or use explosives. Loading and unloading of explosives are examples of
handling, and blasting of slag pockets is an example of the use of
explosives. This is a new requirement that reinforces the importance of
training for all employees engaged in the handling and use of
explosives.

Paragraph (c)(1)(vii) would require the employer to ensure that no
person is allowed to enter facilities containing explosives, or to
transport, handle, or use explosives while under the influence of
intoxicating liquors, narcotics, or other drugs that may cause the
person to act in an unsafe manner in the workplace. Due to safety
considerations, OSHA is proposing that such persons be completely
restricted from access to a facility where explosives are manufactured
or stored as well as restricting them from the handling and
transportation of explosives.
This would appear to require some sort of drug testing to be in compliance.

Paragraph (c)(1)(ix) would require the employer to ensure that no
flammable cleaning solvents are present in facilities containing
explosives except where authorized by the employer and where their
presence does not endanger the safety of employees. This is a new
requirement and is based on a recommendation in the Petition (Ex. 2-1).
Due to their potential to create a fire and thus cause an explosion, it
is generally not safe to have flammable cleaning solvents in facilities
containing explosives.

Paragraph (c)(2)(i) would require the employer to ensure that the
primary electrical supply to any part of the facility (e.g., building,
loading dock, etc.) containing explosives can be disconnected at a safe
remote location away from that part of the facility. A safe remote
location from a part of the facility containing explosives is a
location far enough away to ensure that, if all the explosives in that
part of the facility detonated, a person at the remote location would
not be injured by the explosion. In determining what a safe remote
location is, the employer will need to consider factors such as the
type and amount of explosives present.
This is a new requirement
Would this even be possible in a small gunshop?

Proposed paragraph (c)(2)(ii) deals with safety hazards caused by
electrical storms. During the approach and progress of an electrical
storm, paragraph (c)(2)(ii)(A) would require the employer to ensure
that all explosive manufacturing and blasting operations are suspended,
and paragraph (c)(2)(ii)(B) would require the employer to ensure that
employees located in or near facilities containing explosives, or in
blast sites, are withdrawn immediately to a safe remote location. A
safe remote location in this case would be a location far enough away
from all the explosives in the facility or blast site so that a person
would not be injured if there were an explosion. These proposed
requirements are based on therequirements in existing paragraph (e)(1)(vii)(a) which requires
employers to remove employees from the blasting area during the
approach and progress of an electrical storm. However, proposed
paragraph (c)(2)(ii)(A) has been expanded to require the suspension of
explosive manufacturing operations and proposed paragraph (c)(2)(ii)(B)
also requires the immediate withdrawal of employees located near
explosives. This reduces the time the employees are exposed to a
potential hazard. The expansion of the existing requirement is in
recognition that an electrical storm may be hazardous to employees at
facilities and blast sites containing explosives and that employees
need to be kept a safe distance away from a potential explosion. This
is standard practice in the industry and is consistent with a
recommendation in the Petition (Ex. 2-1).

Static electricity as a potential source of ignition is probably
the single greatest concern for facilities and blast sites containing
explosives. The Petition (Ex. 2-1) recommends new requirements for
static electricity protection that would require any new static
electricity protection system to comply with NFPA 77, Static
Electricity (Ex. 2-7). However, it recommended limiting the application
of the requirements only to systems installed after the effective date
of the new standard and would not require an existing manufacturing
facility to install a new system or modify an existing system to meet
the requirements of NFPA 77. IME informed OSHA that certain explosives
are not static-sensitive and do not require protection. IME further
argues that, since explosives manufacturing is subject to the
requirements of OSHA's PSM standard at Sec. 1910.119, areas in an
explosives manufacturing facility where static electricity protection
systems may be needed should already have been identified through the
process hazard analysis requirements of the PSM standard, and adequate
safeguards should have been instituted in accordance with the PSM
standard.
OSHA believes that static electricity protection systems can be
important safety features for facilities containing explosives. The
Agency considered proposing a requirement in paragraph (c) that would
require the employer to ensure that all facilities containing
explosives have appropriate and effective static electricity protection
systems, with suggested methods of compliance found in NFPA 77. The
Agency decided not to propose such language because it lacked
sufficient data and information on the types and effectiveness of
static electricity protection systems. OSHA is seeking additional
information on these issues through public comments.

The hazards of flame, matches, and spark producing devices are
dealt with in proposed paragraph (c)(3)(iii)(A) by requiring the
employer to ensure that no open flames, matches, or spark producing
devices are located within 50 feet of explosives or facilities
containing explosives. As mentioned earlier, ``facilities containing
explosives'' refers to any building on a site where explosives are
manufactured, handled or stored.
Stripsearch customers?

Issue #4: OSHA seeks specific comments on the impact proposed
paragraph (c)(3)(iii) would have on the storage and retail sale of
small arms ammunition, small arms primers, and smokeless propellants.
Do open flames, matches, or spark producing devices create a hazard
when located within 50 feet of small arms ammunition, small arms
primers, or smokeless propellants, or facilities containing these
products? Can employers involved in the storage or retail sale of small
arms ammunition, small arms primers, or smokeless propellants prevent
all open flames, matches, or spark producing devices from coming within
50 feet of these products or facilities containing these products? If
not, why not? Should proposed paragraph (c)(3)(iii) use a protective
distance other than 50 feet and, if so, what distance should it be and
why? Should OSHA exclude small arms ammunition, small arms primers, and
smokeless propellants from the requirements of proposed paragraph
(c)(3)(iii)?

Proposed paragraph (c)(3)(iii)(C) would require the employer to
ensure that no person carries firearms, ammunition, or similar articles
in facilities containing explosives
No armed employees in gunshops? No legally-armed customers? How about cops?

Issue #9: Should OSHA require lightning protection systems for any
facility that contains ammonium nitrate or explosives? What would these
systems cost?

Proposed paragraph (e)(1) addresses general provisions associated
with the transportation of explosives. Proposed paragraph (e)(1)(i)
would require the employer to ensure that no employee smokes, carries
matches or any other flame-producing device, or carries any firearms or
cartridges (except firearms and cartridges required to be carried by
guards) while in, or within 25 feet (7.63m) of, a vehicle containing
explosives.

Paragraph (e)(1)(iii) would require the employer to ensure that
explosives are not transferred from one vehicle to another without
informing local fire and police departments. This will help to ensure
that the transfer is performed in a safe manner. In addition, a
competent person must supervise the transfer of explosives. This is
applicable to all transfer work whether it is done within private
facilities or on public highways.
UPS, Fed-ex & DHL will just love this.

Proposed paragraph (h)(2) would require the employer to ensure that
small arms ammunition is separated from flammable liquids, flammable
solids, and oxidizing materials by a fire barrier wall with at least a
1-hour fire resistance rating or by a distance of at least 25 feet.
Small gunshops better get bigger.

Paragraph (h)(3)(i)(B) would require the employer to ensure that no
more than 20 pounds of smokeless propellants, in containers not to
exceed 1 pound, are displayed in a commercial establishment.

Paragraph (h)(4)(i)(B) would require the employer to ensure that
small arms ammunition primers be separated from flammable liquids,
flammable solids, and oxidizing materials by a fire barrier wall with
at least a 1-hour fire resistance rating or by a distance of at least
25 feet.

Paragraph (h)(4)(i)(C) would require the employer to ensure that no
more than 10,000 small arms primers be displayed in a commercial
establishment.

Issue #21: Proposed paragraphs (h)(3)(i)(B) and (h)(4)(i)(C) place
restrictions on the quantity of smokeless propellants and small arms
primers, respectively, that can be displayed in commercial
establishments. Should OSHA further clarify the quantity limitations
for smokeless propellants and small arms primers to allow multiple
displays in commercial establishments? If so, what quantities should be
allowed and should the quantities be based on the size of the
commercial establishment? Should there be a minimum distance between
displays to ensure employee safety? Should the same limitations placed
on commercial establishments also apply to gun shows?

Paragraph (j) Training. Proposed paragraph (j) is new and contains
proposed training requirements for employees in the explosives
industry."




To send comments to them, go to: http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main

On the menu by number 4, select "document ID" and then enter this number in the space: OSHA-2007-0032
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:21 PM   #2
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Default RE: OSHA is proposing a rule that will put more restrictions on getting ammo/powder/etc.:

Good article Chuck.

I can see the possible implications and hope this has little or no impact of ammo retailing. An item wroth keeping an eye on either way. Right now it seems like much of that particular regulation applies to "manufacturing" (which I'm sure is already a business in which many precautions are taken). Also it seems like much of the regulation (if applied)will be left up to the discretionof the employer, thankfully.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:55 PM   #3
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Default RE: OSHA is proposing a rule that will put more restrictions on getting ammo/powder/etc.:

These aremy replies to the guy who wrote about this same thing in the black powder section.None of the pro-gun organizations had even commented on this rule change as of the last time i looked.

"i can tell you this, OSHA is not the lead agency or regulatory authority for explosives and black powder. i'm a federally licensed user ofhigh explosives. The ATFE is the lead agency for alllicensing of users,storage, and inventory of explosives used by civilians. ATFE conductscomplianceinspections and tells folks what can be shipped and not shipped by air express and how it will be stored.In many respects ATF explosive storage rules are more stringent than military explosive storage rules. DOT gets its nose in there on shipments.If somethinggets lostin shipment or stolen from storage it is the ATFE who is coming to town."

"There are several federal agencies whoget in explosive shipping, storage and use. First there is the military, for militaryonly. Then there is the US Army Corps of Engineers for COE stuff only. OSHA has its own little Mickey Mouse crap, that pertainsonly where nothing else applies.In 25 years i've never seen a situation where OSHA rules applied."

"Scanned the proposed rules. Me thinks it is not a big deal. There were very few comments on this proposed rule until today. Most of those were by private individuals who use black powder recreationally. So far as storage and shipment goes it is my belief the ATF rules will prevail. Several years ago the ATF prohibited the shipment of certain explosive materialsby UPS and FEDEX shipment. When a whole bunch of oil fieldjobs and government contractorjobswere shut down or nearly shut down, ATF relented.Furthermore, i believe that OSHA rules do not apply to most gun shops since they do not have 10 or more employees. It is my personal belief that a lot of guns shops do not want to be bothered with black powder, so they do not order it."

"Any kind of explosives can be shipped by a less than truckload (LTL) carrier. Did you ever see a trailer on the road with placards all over it?These guys haul all kinds of stuff, including hazardous materials.When i worked here locally, the truck driver would call me when he left Wal-Mart to tell me he was on his way with my high explosives and detonators."

http://www.allbusiness.com/human-resources/workplace-health-safety-employment/11512-1.html

""There are[/i] exceptions to the OSHA regulations for some small businesses. For example, there is a partial exemption for employers with 10 or fewer employees. Small businesses of that size do not have to keep OSHA injury and illness records unless OSHA or the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) informs them in writing that they must keep records.""

""In addition to small businesses with less than 10 employees, businesses in certain industries are also exempt from OSHA"™s regulations. If your business establishment is classified in a specific low-hazard retail, service, finance, insurance, or real estate industry, you do not need to keep OSHA injury and illness records unless the government asks you to. However, all employers must report to OSHA any workplace incident that results in a fatality or the hospitalization of three or more employees.""

""There are[/i] exceptions to the OSHA regulations for some small businesses. For example, there is a partial exemption for employers with 10 or fewer employees. Small businesses of that size do not have to keep OSHA injury and illness records unless OSHA or the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) informs them in writing that they must keep records.""

""In addition to small businesses with less than 10 employees, businesses in certain industries are also exempt from OSHA"™s regulations. If your business establishment is classified in a specific low-hazard retail, service, finance, insurance, or real estate industry, you do not need to keep OSHA injury and illness records unless the government asks you to. However, all employers must report to OSHA any workplace incident that results in a fatality or the hospitalization of three or more employees.""

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