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Old 06-12-2007, 07:53 PM   #1
 
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More news on global warming ... I mean, "climate change." God-forbid we not be PC about the environment. Someone out there might be offended. Now wouldn't that just be terrible?

British scientists say that biofuels (that means it comes from plants) will not cut down on green house gas emissions. Why? Because it takes too much land to plant the proper plants for biofuels. In order to get the land, you have to burn down forests. When you burn forests, the carbon dioxide that these forests normally scrub from the air will remain. This, according to environmental lore, will contribute to global warming.

Scientists say, "We calculate that the land will need to grow biodiesel crops for 70-300 years to compensate for the CO2 emitted in forest destruction."

And there you have it. In order to pump biofuels into your SUV, you will have to burn acres of forests, which will harm the earth more than if you just pumped gasoline.
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:05 PM   #2
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FYI... There is a good reason why gas is the cleanest power we have. Not that another will take it's place but it can't be forced on us. The market will decide not scare tactics.
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In order for Ethanol to meet our transportation needs we would need over 500 million acres of corn fields, I believe California is about 100 million acres. And the U.S. overall only has 470 million arable acres. So that won't work.

In order to produce ONE gallon of corn ethanol it requires about 900 gallons of water. Soy-bean biodiesel requires over 5000 gallons of water to produce ONE gallon of fuel. And that will get the water convervation people angry, so that won't work either.

Theres not much better then the good ol' dino oil were burning.
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I like the trend in alternative fuels. The sooner we get off oil, the sooner we can go back to ignoring the middle east.
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Industrial hemp can be grown for hempseed oil biodiesel nearly anywhere in the country with minimal need for fertilizer and water except for desert areas, no net loss of crop land, and would provide substantial benefits from side products such as textiles, polymers, paper pulp, animal feeds, and many others. Land that cannot support other crops can grow vigorous crops of hemp. The oil converts to biodiesel via a simple process that can be accomplished at the consumer level easily, therefore not requiring refineries, although existing refineries could also easily produce it for bulk distribution. In a pinch hempseed oil can also be used in it's raw form in diesel engines with no modification other than simple filtration. The only petroleum product that cannot be produced from hempseed oil is gasoline. You can't grow "wacky tobacky" near it, the cross pollination would ruin the "good stuff", and industrial hemp wouldn't give a bug a buzz. Why isn't this source being explored?
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:01 AM   #7
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I have always been curious why more petroleum based products arent being recycled into something else.For instance in my line of work we tear off hundreds of tons of asphalt shingles every year, tar paper, vinyl siding, and Im sure many more things Im not thinking of this early in the day.They all goto a landfill, they cant burn em, they cant/or shouldntbury em, and they dont break down very fast sitting in huge piles if they do break down at all. Tires around here have gotten to be damn near impossible to get rid of, it costs almost as much to dispose of them as it does to buy new ones.While they may not be usable as a fuel why cant they be melted back down and used as something else, other forms of roofing, perhaps some sort of road like asphalt or something.
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What about the millions of acres of switch grass that is already growing and proposed as a good piece of alternative fuel sources? Seems to me that alternative fuel can come from the huge amount of corn already going to waste, from switchgrass, from sugar beats, sugar cane, etc....without having to burn down forests. What about the huge acreage in CRP that is just sitting around ready to use? I am sure the this more common sense approach was not mentioned?
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"Why isn't this source being explored?"

The cultivation of hemp is/was forbidden by the feds. Think that the fedsare starting to wake up now. For some idiotic reason, some law enforcement folks are opposed to hemp production.

Link: http://mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/HEMP/newhempr.html

"After World War II, the hemp industry declined as the federal government again began to restrict hemp production.18 Farmers continued to produce hemp on a limited scale until the 1950s.19 However, legislation eventually came to treat industrial hemp crops as marijuana (drug) crops, and hemp fiber production was no longer promoted."

Used to find hemp plants growing all over WV. A policeman friend and icollected some and dried it.Drug sniffing dogs would not even alert on the stuff.

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I have a better idea, why not let us drill for our own oil? We have plenty of it but are being blocked from getting at it.
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