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Old 06-04-2007, 08:38 AM   #1
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Default Amnesty,,,,,A Done Deal??......Part 2.....Get Ready

Looks like the Amnesty Act of 2007 is pretty much a done deal, as the US Senate prepares to give the real citizens of this country big "FU" and pass it some time this week.

The Senators behind the amnesty feel are feeling pretty cocky today. They've been at home with their constituents over the weekend and they think that opposition to amnesty is fading. The Washington Post is saying that the voices of opposition, especially the voices of conservatives who don't like the idea of amnesty, is just a small part of American public opinion.

You know what? They may well be right.

You would hope that the American people would instinctively know that the proper way to solve the problem of illegal immigration is to first close the border. After sealing the border with Mexico we can take time for due deliberation as to what to do with the illegal aliens we already have in our country. You would hope that Americans would realize that what is being called "comprehensive" immigration reform is a political solution, one designed to satisfy political objectives, rather than a solution designed to solve the actual problem at hand.

You might hope that the American people would understand these things, but you have to remember that we're talking about a government "educated" citizenry that is far more interested in the latest celebrity and sports news than they are in what the political class is doing with their money and to their freedoms.

It's all very simple, really. Close the border. Stop the invasion. Turn off the faucets. Then we'll have time aplenty to sit back and figure out what to do with those illegals who are already here. Americans are not cold blooded monsters who want to uproot established Hispanic families and dump them across the border. You present the average American with the story of a Hispanic high school graduate trying to get into college, a young adult who was brought to this country by their parents at the age of three, and you aren't going to find many who would insist that this person, who has known nothing but life in America, be sent back to a country they don't know.

Why is nobody talking about the cost to the taxpayers here? Since 1990 Hispanics have accounted for 92% of the increase in poor people in this country. Only about 53% of the Hispanic adult population in the U.S. even have a high school education. This means we are legitimizing a huge number of people who will eventually end up on the receiving end of our hundreds of local and federal welfare programs. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation has compiled some of the costs. He says that government tax payments ... entitlements and means-tested benefits ... would increase by about $8000 per American household. We're looking at about 20 billion a year .. and that's just starters. You've read about the increases in crime across the country, haven't you? For every 100,000 U.S. residents in a specific age group you'll find Hispanics in prison at a rate of about two-and-one half that of whites. There seems to be some reluctance to report this in the news, but what would you like to bet that a huge portion of the increase in crime in this country is coming from the fine people who have been part of the Mexican invasion. This isn't rocket surgery. What, after all, have we been teaching these people? They cross our border illegally, and nothing happens. They stay here illegally ... they use forged documents to get jobs and they work here illegally, and nothing happens. Can you blame some of them for not believing that we're all that serious about enforcing our laws?

Again .. it's very simple. When the government becomes selective in enforcing our laws, it's only natural that the people would become selective in obeying them.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:13 AM   #2
 
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I posted this in the other amnesty thread (you guys really have to learn to post in existing threads rather than start a new one for every thought that jumps into your heads) but haven't got an answer yet. I'll just cut and paste from that thread.

Quoting the Master Debater from another thread:

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I haven't seen anyone on either side of this issue advocating amnesty. Can you please point out where amnesty has been introduced as part of the bill?

Surely you don't mean paying a fine is somehow tantamount to amnesty? I mean, when you get a speeding ticket and you pay a fine, is that amnesty? When you get community service in lieu of jail time, is that amnesty? Please explain the whole concept of amnesty to me because I must not understand it very well.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:18 AM   #3
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"Looks like the Amnesty Act of 2007 is pretty much a done deal, as the US Senate prepares to give the real citizens of this country big "FU" and pass it some time this week."

Unfortunately, you are very right. The whiney far left liberals have teamed up with George Bush to pass their unholy amnesty program. The borders will never get fixed just like they never got fixed after the 1986 amnesty. An adequate number of border guards will never be hired. In 10-20 years we will have the ususal suspects selling another amnesty bill.i gotta puke, again.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:24 AM   #4
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I posted this in the other amnesty thread (you guys really have to learn to post in existing threads rather than start a new one for every thought that jumps into your heads) but haven't got an answer yet. I'll just cut and paste from that thread.
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Well excuse the hell out of me then, strange biller. Yeah right, hold your breath why don't ya.
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STRANGE BILLER DECLARES VICTORY OVER 1SHOT WHO FLAT OUT REFUSES TO EVEN ATTEMPT A DEFENSE OF HIS POSITION!
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If you are wondering where to go from here, the usual routine is to attack me as a liberal. Then I'll point out that you still haven't defined amnesty or explained why this bill contains "amnesty" if people have to pay fines of $5000. Then you can mention something about Hillary Clinton, only spell it Klinton. Then I'll declare further victory.
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:52 AM   #7
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"Amnesty" or not, the point remains that the folks receiving it are going to dig us deeper into the hole. They have already forced the closing of numerous hospitals that couldn't afford to stay in business due to these leeches' demanding free medical care. Billions of dollars to give them free treatment. Billionsof dollars to give their children free education. And, once they are "legitimized", I'm guessing Trillions of dollars in other social/welfare services and benefits. The folks suckling at the government teat (as well as the folks running the government teat) need to learn that, eventually, too many parasites will kill the host.

And, for what it's worth... Hillary has earned that "K"... She is a Socialist, pure and simple.
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STRANGE BILLER DECLARES VICTORY OVER 1SHOT WHO FLAT OUT REFUSES TO EVEN ATTEMPT A DEFENSE OF HIS POSITION!
Only in your wet dream, boy.
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:00 PM   #9
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Keep calling, folks. You can't give up until there's nothing left to give, so give your senators a piece of your mind. If the number's busy, call back.

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Old 06-04-2007, 03:34 PM   #10
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Sent another e-mail to my 2 Senators and my Congressional Representitive. That's 1 each hand written letter, 1 each phone call, and 2 each e-mails. I'll be sending another e-mail tomorrow to each one of them.
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