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Old 05-22-2007, 03:31 PM   #1
 
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Well Libs heres your rebuttal to the statement, "only the slim minority of muslims believe in violence" "Islam is the religion of peace". BULLS***. Well heres a poll of young muslims, how bout 25 PERCENT. Islam is the religion of violence.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070522/ts_nm/usa_muslims_poll_dc;_ylt=Agb6Jv.21l27i0ik5_tL5OIEt bAF
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Old 05-22-2007, 03:56 PM   #2
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Yeah next let's poll the politicians.

What a bunch of crock 5% error. Hello politicians make a career out of lying. What makes people think that Muslims will tell the truth ecspecially when they know they are being watched? I would have thought some of these people would have learned this by now.
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:14 PM   #3
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I know very few religions that when push comes to shove can be called religions of peace though it seems the Islamic faith thrives on violence.
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:56 PM   #4
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It's not the religion; it's the followers. Muslims aren't clones--they're individuals. So long as man is thepurveyor of religion (God hasn't made an appearance since the OT, right?), his relative negative traits (competitive violence) will remain and fester to some degree. Claiming that Islam alone creates murderers is a very simplistic andignorant assertion to make.

Politics bends religion more than religion bends politics in the modern era. In fact, it has for some time. These nuts aren't killing for God--they're killing for land, resources, money, influence, and control...all very human desires. Extremist Islam is just the carrier for the political message.

When you speak to Muslims about terrorism, they don't speak in terms of please God or living according to bin Laden's interpretation of the Koran. They talk about pushing out invaders, empires, and criminals. They were used torunning things their way, but once the Ottoman Empire collapse in WWI, they were subjected to all kinds of outside interests who moved into their areas.

I don't support murder in any form, let alone suicide bombings. But it's important to see things from the enemy's side, and not rely on stereotypes and generalized assumptions. These nuts don't complain about Christianity's influence over Islam--they speak of the West's influence over the Middle East.
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I don't doubt the numbers, but what groups of Muslims were polled and what was the turn out from each group? Second, I bet you would get similiar, maybe a little lower if you polled all Americans together as well.
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:02 AM   #6
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Politics bends religion more than religion bends politics in the modern era. In fact, it has for some time. These nuts aren't killing for God--they're killing for land, resources, money, influence, and control...all very human desires. Extremist Islam is just the carrier for the political message.
Exactly right. About a year ago (I apologize, i have lost the link in the mists of time) a fairly definitive study was done of all suicide bombinggs world wide. The vast majoritywere motivated by a political, rather than religious, agenda.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:10 AM   #8
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A few interesting and informative websites:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.tkb.org/Home.jsp
http://ctstudies.com/index.html
http://www.jihadmonitor.org/
http://counterterrorismblog.org/
http://www.terrorism.com/

Also some books by author Robert Spencer that I've foundextremely informative &insightful:
The Truth About Muhammad
The Myth of Islamic Tolerance: How Islamic Law Treats Non-Muslims
Onward Muslim Soldiers

And some other books I found very informative as well:
Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America by Brigitte Gabriel
Religion of Peace?: Islam's War Against the World by Gregory M. Davis
Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out by Ibn Warraq
Islam Unveiled by David Pryce-Jones


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Islam-like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, or any other religion-is not about peace. Nor is it about war. Every religion is about absolute belief in its own superiority and the divine right to impose its version of truth upon others.[/align]
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"How Islam Lost Its Way," The Washington Post, December 30, 2001
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Since this is not the forum for it, I'll just say that statement is, at least in some cases, plain wrong. Blanket statements usually are.

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