RE: National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
At first I didn't like it.
But after I re-read it it sounds like someone is thinking about a "just in case" scenario.
There is probably a reason some of it is classified, maybe some folks on earth that are trying to kill us and disrupt our lives shouldn't know everything.
I don't think President Bush see's himself as a dictator(I know it's my opinion) but I would trust him to do the right thing as opposed to alot of other people on the hill.
Shumer wants to get rid of Homeland Security. He's just one of many idiots that don't have a clue. So which way should it be?
Would rather be prepared than caught with our pants down, AGAIN.
RE: National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
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ORIGINAL: aunsaber
At first I didn't like it.
But after I re-read it it sounds like someone is thinking about a "just in case" scenario.
There is probably a reason some of it is classified, maybe some folks on earth that are trying to kill us and disrupt our lives shouldn't know everything.
I don't think President Bush see's himself as a dictator(I know it's my opinion) but I would trust him to do the right thing as opposed to alot of other people on the hill.
Shumer wants to get rid of Homeland Security. He's just one of many idiots that don't have a clue. So which way should it be?
Would rather be prepared than caught with our pants down, AGAIN.
I would agree with you, But, When has Bush done right by the people and what about a future president?
Well about homeland security, They had more than enough info on 911 and it happened still. What is goanna change if it is made larger? Where is the money comming from? Who are the people going to be monitored? When you make that larger, Again,who do you think is going to be monitored? You think just bad guys? When you want to icrease something like homeland security it is exactly going to be what it is called. American citizens being monitored 24/7. This is against the constitution. Who still believes in that document? Do you? I sure do.
RE: National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
There are a lot of things that are against the Constitution, whichI believe very strongly in, but they go on any way. That doesn't make it right, but thats the way it is.
If someone dropped the ball on 911, Blamecan go a lot father back than Bush. There is enough to go around.
I am at the point in my life that if it's makes us safe and my Grand kids safe, with a minimum of intrusion, then we might have to deal with it.
NO, I don't like it but if it keeps some rag-head or others from doing something stupid, like killing us because we believe differantly than them, so be it.
They already have my fingerprints,picture and shirt size and medical records since I was born.
So as long asI can live they way I am I will be happy.
But we do have to make sureif they take something from us it IS for our good.
Whichthat is a fine line andI know how politicians like to say what is good for us.
RE: National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
It amazes me how Bush always seems to get the Big Thumbs Down no matter what the issue.I don't see any differance in this directive than similar directives during the cold war - or - a national disaster that may disrupt the"Continuity of Government" and "National Essential Functions".I.E. Katrina hits East or WestCoast - Nuke(s) hits major U.S. city(s),Chemical Warfare(Air Water),Major Bridges,Dams,Waterways are damaged or destroyed etc...etc.....
I guess the bottom line is HOW is the Federal Goverment going to react to a "Catastrophic Emergency" so we all may come back to this forum and keepWhiningabout the Feds [:'(]
RE: National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
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ORIGINAL: aunsaber
There are a lot of things that are against the Constitution, whichI believe very strongly in, but they go on any way. That doesn't make it right, but thats the way it is.
If someone dropped the ball on 911, Blamecan go a lot father back than Bush. There is enough to go around.
I am at the point in my life that if it's makes us safe and my Grand kids safe, with a minimum of intrusion, then we might have to deal with it.
NO, I don't like it but if it keeps some rag-head or others from doing something stupid, like killing us because we believe differantly than them, so be it.
They already have my fingerprints,picture and shirt size and medical records since I was born.
So as long asI can live they way I am I will be happy.
But we do have to make sureif they take something from us it IS for our good.
Whichthat is a fine line andI know how politicians like to say what is good for us.
I don't even know what to say about that statement. I want to ask if you was born here and how was you raised and what kind of people your parents was. Then I would ask you about their parents and grandparents. You know sometime in the future that either you or your grandchildren or their children are going to have way worse than it is now. A decision has to be made sometime on whats more important. Slavery or Freedom. I can't believe it's only been 230 years since the declaration was signed.
Alot of things happened in 1776. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776
1945 another war ended that won our freedoms. only 60 yrs ago.
My point is? Are we ever going to have our freedom back ever with every aspect of the constitution, Or are people dieing to take more freedoms from us? What is the use of fighting for then? Fight to be inslaved? Why fight a war if it is to make us slaves? Maybe we should ask congress about a time limit for when we get all of our freedoms back and the constitution is the main law of this country again. How many died to give you a life and a grandchild and how are we to respect the deaths of those who died for our liberties if they are being taken away? How can we forget about this? It's only been 60 years ago and no more than 230 since people died for us.
Are we to sit back and let this happen without a fight of some sort? We owe it to those who died and fought for us to return the favor. I am not saying to war with weapons at first. I am saying our last chance for this country to get turned around is start to really voice. If nothing gets done soon, I will have to say our past and the lives lost was invein. Without cause for our future.
RE: National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
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ORIGINAL: AJ52
It amazes me how Bush always seems to get the Big Thumbs Down no matter what the issue.I don't see any differance in this directive than similar directives during the cold war - or - a national disaster that may disrupt the"Continuity of Government" and "National Essential Functions".I.E. Katrina hits East or WestCoast - Nuke(s) hits major U.S. city(s),Chemical Warfare(Air Water),Major Bridges,Dams,Waterways are damaged or destroyed etc...etc.....
I guess the bottom line is HOW is the Federal Goverment going to react to a "Catastrophic Emergency" so we all may come back to this forum and keepWhiningabout the Feds [:'(]
What amazes me is that people voted twice for him... Is not he the president? Look how good he did during 911. He sat in a school reading a book when America was under attack. Katrina hit, He went on vacation.
He removes haebeus under the patriot act. Illegal phone tapping. Are you an American AJ? You sure don't seam like one from your comment. You must not be able to see the big picture of what is going on and need to get a better perspective.
RE: National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
Cokemando said:
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What amazes me is that people voted twice for him... Is not he the president? Look how good he did during 911. He sat in a school reading a book when America was under attack. Katrina hit, He went on vacation.
He removes haebeus under the patriot act. Illegal phone tapping. Are you an American AJ? You sure don't seam like one from your comment. You must not be able to see the big picture of what is going on and need to get a better perspective.
Forgive me, however you seem like someone sent from the "net/nutroots conspiracy cabal" to spread the word amongst the masses. Your post above is a simple recitation of the "Bush Haters Anon" creedo. Say hi to khatsung @ the next meeting - just watch out for the black helicopters & the brain-beams!
RE: National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
Hummm - coke what does voting for him twice have to do with the link you posted and its intent - IF - you read it carefully.
I think Bush handled 911 as well as any other President might have. Nothing like 911 has happened since Pearl Harbor - Do your history on that one.
Katrina - he went on vacation - so what.I have no idea nor does anyone truly know what thepresident did or didn't do with respect to Katrina on"the vacation" other than what the press showed/told us [:-]
I see the Big Picture crystal clear and I'm warm and cozy with the directive
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
