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Old 05-15-2007, 12:11 PM   #1
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Default For those claiming abuse AT GITMO, here's your proof!

I want to apologize for saying that the so called "torture" was a bunch of BS.Clearly, this is proof that their claims are true.[:-]


Terror Suspect Claims Torture by Americans, Not Enough Entertainment at Guantanamo Bay
Tuesday, May 15, 2007



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WASHINGTON"” An accused enemy combatant held at Guantanamo Bay[/b] told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of 'crap,' being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce.[/b]
Majid Khan[/b] of Pakistan denied any connection to Al Qaeda[/b] and said he was tortured and his family hounded by U.S. authorities, according to a redacted transcript released Tuesday by the Pentagon.
Khan told an April 15 hearing called to determine whether he was rightly classified as an "enemy combatant[/b]" that he also had his baby pictures taken from him, that cleaners left marks on his cell walls and that detainees have no DVD players or other entertainment.
At one point, Kan said he wrote on his walls, "stop torturing me, I need my mails, newspaper and my lawyer."
Khan was captured in Pakistan in 2003. The military says he has provided support to Al Qaeda and has expressed a desire to assassinate Pakistan's President Pervez Musharaff. The April 15 hearing is the first step in possible war crimes charges against him.
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[/align][/align]In a lengthy written statement, Khan said the CIA and the Defense Department tortured him after his capture in Pakistan as well as when he was transferred to the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.
"I swear to God this place in some sense worst than CIA jails. I am being mentally torture here," said Khan in a statement read by his personal representative about his time in Guantanamo. "There is extensive torture even for the smallest of infractions."
Khan, who grew up in Maryland and is the only U.S. resident among 15 detainees the government considers most dangerous, also described suicide attempts where he "chewed my artery which goes through my elbow."
The CIA and Pentagon have said their interrogations practices are legal and that they do not use torture.
Khan's father, however, provided the most graphic descriptions of his son's treatment at the hands of U.S. authorities, in a written statement that also was included in the hearing record.
Ali Shoukat Khan said his son was kidnapped in Pakistan and that there, Americans tortured his son "for eight hours at a time, tying him tightly in stressful positions in a small chair until his hands, feet and mind went numb. ... He was often hooded and had difficulty breathing. They also beat him repeatedly, slapping him in the face, and deprived him of sleep."
The elder Khan, a retired gas station owner, said his son is not a terrorist and demanded that the government present its evidence, "charge him with a crime and give him a fair trial in a real court." He also said he and his family were pressured by the FBI to speculate about his son's activities.
The FBI, he said, "followed us everywhere we went for a long time, requiring us to tell them in advance where we were going and what we were going to do there."
FOX News' Jennifer Griffin and Nick Simeone and The Associated Press contributed to this report.[/i]
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:01 PM   #2
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Well what can i say. Must have been desperate since he gnawed on the arteries in his elbow.i wish he were living in a filthylice and flea infested cell inKarachi and being beaten on a reqular basis.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:14 PM   #3
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WASHINGTON"” An accused enemy combatant held at Guantanamo Bay[/b] told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of 'crap,' being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce.
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Sounds like a serious violation of the Geneva Convention. Imagine.... trying to play with a ball that won't bounce. If that isn't torture I don't know what is.......
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No torture at Gitmo, but it is a damned shame that we're still holding "combatants" there who have not had a trial to determine their guilt. Five years some of them have been imprisoned, and there's no doubt in my mind that there are innocents among them. That's a shame.
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Somebody better tell red lion
so he can go after these evil Americans!
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:17 AM   #6
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No torture at Gitmo, but it is a damned shame that we're still holding "combatants" there who have not had a trial to determine their guilt. Five years some of them have been imprisoned, and there's no doubt in my mind that there are innocents among them. That's a shame.
Very good point Ben and IMO just another issue concerning the present administration that is edging towards a place our fore fathers didn't plan for. Pushing the envelope on rights with things like Gitmo, illegal wire tapping and personal data gathering of the general public makes me wonder where it will all end. I guess from the governments perspective, the war on terror is more of a clandestine fight than an actual battle...but then we have Iraq.Like everything in life our government has an ebb and flow going from one extreme to another. I guess that is the purpose of a 2 party system allowing for a more moderate end result over time. The big question is where will we go after 2008?
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:28 AM   #7
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I think they should be forced to watch reruns of the View.

24/7 of Rosie should make them all want admit their crimes and demand to be put to death!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:57 AM   #8
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Rosie is out with a possible replacement of Roseanne Barr. I wonder if she will be singing her wonderful rendition of the National Anthem. That 24/7 and a diet of pork rinds should be more than enough to crack the hardest of the prisoners.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:28 PM   #9
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What I find ironic is that the very people against any infringement of privacy wanted to hold Bush accountable for not stopping 9/11, when it would have taken exactly that kind of infringement to uncover the true plot beyond the vague threats that we got then, and get on a near daily basis. It reminds me of the people saying "Where's Bin Laden," as if they expected him caught or killed by now, but those same people would scream if we went willy nilly into Pakistan to get him!
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Old 05-16-2007, 04:51 PM   #10
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the people saying "Where's Bin Laden," as if they expected him caught or killed by now, but those same people would scream if we went willy nilly into Pakistan to get him!
not certain i can give you an "amen" on that one Doug. There are many of us who, prior to Iraq when we had the goodwill of everyone on the planet,would have supported fast, surgical strikes into foreign territory with a 21st century military to isolate and eliminate terrorist cells. This was what I hoped Bush meant when he called for the "war on terror". instead, we got bogged down in a conventional war and futile exercise in nation building.
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