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Old 05-02-2007, 05:25 AM   #1
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Will suicidal Swiss stick to their guns?

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ZURICH (Reuters) - Switzerland is one of the world's richest and most tranquil countries, but it also has more suicides than most. This may show that money doesn't buy happiness, but some Swiss also blame the guns.
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:57 AM   #2
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It's easier to buy a butter knife than a gun in Switzerland, what if the majority of suicides gouged out their eyes with a butter knife first, should they ban butter knives too? How about pointy sticks? Dumbassed liberals...
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Old 05-02-2007, 07:37 AM   #4
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I may have some of the facts wrong, but I'm pretty confident that the substance of my description is right on. Those who are better informed please correct any error I may make.

As I understand Switzerland has no standing army. Instead, every head-of-household is required by law to possess an assault rifle in good working order, maintain an adequate stock of ammunition (presumably several hundred rounds), and to regularly practice with this rifle. This is fascinating in my opinion. I think in such a society there is not likely to be any foolish gun phobia as there is here in the US, and in many other countries, bred of ignorance and unfamiliarity. As a result of this I would be very, very surprised if some significant change in gun ownership laws occurs in Switzerland.

Again, if I'm wrong in substance someone please set me straight.
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"As I understand Switzerland has no standing army."

They do have an active military component but is isvery small. They also have some of the bestweapons systems in the world. The Karl Gustav recoil-less rifle is used by many armies of the world.


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Old 05-02-2007, 08:30 AM   #6
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Yep, the Swiss learned their lesson almost 800 years ago that those who desire peace must prepare for war. They kicked the Austrians out just as we kicked the British out, only we've decided to revise our culture to fall more into line with the pacifistic catastrophists in the anti-gun crowds.
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Yep, the Swiss learned their lesson almost 800 years ago that those who desire peace must prepare for war. They kicked the Austrians out just as we kicked the British out, only we've decided to revise our culture to fall more into line with the pacifistic catastrophists in the anti-gun crowds.
I suppose it would be safe to say the Swiss are isolationists. They don't send their armies around the world to intervene and defend their commercial empire. Where would the US be if we did something like this? No standing army, but every citizen armed, stocked with ammo, and skilled in using their weapon? I suppose this is a pleasant dream but unrealistic if we do not have air superiority with cutting-edge US aviation technology? It is probably bogus to compare the position of Switzerland -- isolated in mountain fastnesses -- to the wide, verdant, open US. Maybe Switzerland is just more naturally defensible than the US. On the other hand, the location of the US makes it somewhat problematic to attack us.
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I suppose it would be safe to say the Swiss are isolationists. They don't send their armies around the world to intervene and defend their commercial empire. Where would the US be if we did something like this? No standing army, but every citizen armed, stocked with ammo, and skilled in using their weapon? I suppose this is a pleasant dream but unrealistic if we do not have air superiority with cutting-edge US aviation technology? It is probably bogus to compare the position of Switzerland -- isolated in mountain fastnesses -- to the wide, verdant, open US. Maybe Switzerland is just more naturally defensible than the US. On the other hand, the location of the US makes it somewhat problematic to attack us.
What? How is it a pleasant but unrealistic dream for the citizens to keep and bear arms? This story isn't about some quaint idea of a militia--it's about gun control. And regardless of a standing army or not, we shouldn't give up our guns. There's more out there than war--we have plenty of criminals and a handful ofterrorists here in the U.S. to deal with.
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This is just crazy. Suicide is easy. You can do it with a Bag, a rope, a shoe string, a car, a cars exhaust, etc. etc... Heck, the ***anese use to have a practice of eating a pound of salt to kill themsleves. IftheSwissare going to try to protect its inhabitance from themselves, they need to lock them all in a padded room. Because there is no way to protect themselves from themselves any other way.


I tell you what the problem is, Too many bucksum blonds not willing to give it up.
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I suppose it would be safe to say the Swiss are isolationists. They don't send their armies around the world to intervene and defend their commercial empire. Where would the US be if we did something like this? No standing army, but every citizen armed, stocked with ammo, and skilled in using their weapon? I suppose this is a pleasant dream but unrealistic if we do not have air superiority with cutting-edge US aviation technology? It is probably bogus to compare the position of Switzerland -- isolated in mountain fastnesses -- to the wide, verdant, open US. Maybe Switzerland is just more naturally defensible than the US. On the other hand, the location of the US makes it somewhat problematic to attack us.
What? How is it a pleasant but unrealistic dream for the citizens to keep and bear arms? This story isn't about some quaint idea of a militia--it's about gun control. And regardless of a standing army or not, we shouldn't give up our guns. There's more out there than war--we have plenty of criminals and a handful ofterrorists here in the U.S. to deal with.
Aught Six: With all due respect, I think you missed the drift of my post, probably my own fault for being diffuse and ambiguous. The pleasant but unrealistic dream is isolationism in the US of the Swiss kind. My point was to criticize my own attraction to isolationism by pointing out that while this might work for the Swiss (isolationism and no standing army, or no substantial standing army) isolationism might not work for the US.

Definitely my point was not RKABA was a dream.
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