As I've listened to the inevitable gun control debate picking up speed after the recent tragedy a thought occurred to me: Dems have always been for controlling the guns in order to control crimes committed with a firearm in order to save lives. Sure, we all know what a farce that would be since we can easily look around the globe at the historical evidence provided by nations that have taken the right to bare arms away from their people, but that point never really matters to an anti.
This brainwashing has infaltrated the minds of millions - anyone that would vote democrat for example.
So if our leaders are so concerned about saving lives by taking away the guns, why wouldn't they start with the biggest killers, such as smoking?
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Badshotbob: I have similar thoughts. What about banning alcohol? How many are killed by drunk drivers? What about banning overpowered vehicles that people drive too fast and cause accidents with? Maybe just ban all cars. This suggestion will not gain traction, however, because gun control is not a rational issue, it is all about appearances, perceptions, and emotions.
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RE: Smoking vs. Gun Control
Because it would effect their constituents. It is not about legit concern, its about votes, plan and simple. Im sure I answerd a hypathetical question here, but just had to do it.
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I hear you both. Yes, this was more or less a gripe post. It just blows my mind to listen to politicians with an anti-gun agenda. You ever notice that while they consistently lose the debate, they consistently win at being the loudest, rudest, and most irrational side of the debate.
Scary thing though, people listen to these folks.
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We were made by God and for God, and until you figure that out, life isn't going to make sense.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a civilization, it expects what never was and what never will be.
Last time I checked they are already after the smokers, at least around this state. They have passed laws that don't allow smoking in any public gathering places such as restuarants, bars, casino's, etc., and they have raised the taxes on a pack a cigs. substantially. They have tried to raise taxes on ammo.,................ same difference.
They are also attacking the beer drinkers by passing stiffer and stiffer penaltys, such as mandatory loss of license, madatory alchohol management classes that you pay for, mandatory community service.
This is the same route they are using for gun control. Simply try to pass stiffer laws such as the "one gun a month" propagande. And then when more crime happens, they'' come up with another law that takes chips away at our rights. They aren't/can't take all the guns at once, they will just keep chipping away at them until the end result of no guns!
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I hear you both. Yes, this was more or less a gripe post. It just blows my mind to listen to politicians with an anti-gun agenda. You ever notice that while they consistently lose the debate, they consistently win at being the loudest, rudest, and most irrational side of the debate.
Scary thing though, people listen to these folks.
Badshotbob: I'm not lampooning or rejecting your complaint. I'm right there with you. I made my suggestions in good faith. I know these things won't be enacted, but I would argue that they address a more serious threat to the general public. I would guess more people are killed by alcohol in the US every year than are killed by guns. Consider in this calculation not just auto accidents involving drunk drivers, also consider deaths from cirosis of the liver, etc. Just for complete disclosure, I enjoy drinking responsibly and do not want drinking to be banned, but the point is . . . shooting deaths gain attention beyond the strength of their statistical distribution. Politicians and media cry out against the harm caused by guns but do not identify the good done by guns (crimes prevented, criminals repulsed); and they do not take account of other dangers in our world that may be substantially greater risks to us.
Politicians and media cry out against the harm caused by guns but do not identify the good done by guns (crimes prevented, criminals repulsed); and they do not take account of other dangers in our world that may be substantially greater risks to us.
What's interesting about your argument is that there is "good done by guns", but there is no converse "good done by tobacco or alcohol."
I saw one of the lead antigunner congress women on the news last night. I'm sorry to have forgotten her name, but her comment was something like this:
"Other representatives have approached me and said they would love to support my gun legislation, but they can't because they would never win re-election..."
My thought was; Darned right! Listen to the constituents you are supposed to represent, you idiot, instead of your own personal agenda.
Ummm... smoking IS regulated - fairly heavily actually. Legal liability, advertising bans, age limitations, etc... Same with Alcohol, which is why it's all under the jurisdiction of the bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
Most of the people clamoring for a little more gun regulation are actually quite consistent. Most gun nuts don't want to believe that though. They just believe that "people kill people" and they're right and the rest of the world is wrong.
Most of the people clamoring for a little more gun regulation are actually quite consistent. Most gun nuts don't want to believe that though. They just believe that "people kill people" and they're right and the rest of the world is wrong.
Quite consistent, indeed. They don't believe anyone should own guns, or they want to ban guns that they feel unnecessary.
What is wrong with being a gun nut? How is my trying to punch the tiniest holes in a piece of paper hurting anyone?
What do I care if smokes and alcohol are regulated? Guns, alcohol and cigs are capable of killing people. You can start killing yourself in my state at 16 if your parents buy you cigs.(I do not condone this by the way) At the legal age you can buy as much of these substances as you wish. Guns are more heavily regulated than either one.
So, if guns kill people why hasn't mine jumped out of its holster and started inflicting carnage? I have had a gun since the age of 5. Not once has this phenomenon happened. And, OH MY!!!!, it is even a black gun!!!!!!
Smoking vs. Gun Control
