I can't seem to rationalize how it is that so many of us that beleive in the 2nd ammendment right to bear arms can also trust that the war in Iraq is correct. For instance..I beleive that no matter what we do we will NEVER see the day when criminals cannot obtain weapons for their illegal use and believe that the 2nd ammendment is there for the purpose of giving us the ability to defend ourselves and our homes and property knowing that Police and Government cannot fully protect us 24/7. In light of that, how is it, thatsome people who agree with this also support a war in foreign countries that are aimed at wiping out terrorism and terrorists.Again this will never happen, there will always be terrorists, there will always be people who beleive in killing others for their own causes. I beleive as a country we should guard against this as best we canHERE at home and at our borders,but do not have the right to do so elsewhere. If I knew where a criminal lived and knew he was trying to obtain weapons for the purpose of harming me or others, or he had already obtained such a weapon and the police told me there is nothing we can do until he commits an offence or makes a move twords it what would happen if I went to his home and killed him and his family and freinds. Would you who support the war in Iraq support me? I dare say few would. I beleive the military is for the purpose of ensuring the continued freedom of the AMERICAN people not any others. The term "Operation Iraqi Freedom" is a clear indication of our purpose and I beleive this is a misuse of our powers and forces. If our troops want a thank you they need to look for it from Iraqi people because they aren't doing anytrhing over in Iraq that ensures my freedom at all. I appreciate their intentions but sometimes the best intentions can lead us into the worst of circumstances. I love my country and wish for it to be a better place but unfortunately it's not heading that way because of the time and energy that's being spent in the rest of the world. If people would quit living in fear and instead do their best to ensure their own safety and realize that complete security is a myth, then maybe we would all benefit from that attitude and be able to come together and make AMERICA a better place!
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RE: 2nd Amm. and Iraq war contradiction
I wonder how you felt when those planes crashed into the towers. .... I think your head is in the sand ..... JMO
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"I wonder how you felt when those planes crashed into the towers. .... I think your head is in the sand ..... JMO"
Sir:With all due respect: What did Iraq have to do with 9/11? 9/11 was planned by a Saudi terrorist operating from Afghanistan.15 of 19 hijackers were Saudi.
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so would you be alright for us attacking them? What is YOUR solution?
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i would have been all right with attacking Saudi since that is where the terrorists came from. The Saudi regime has promoted Islamic terrorism all over the world and continues to do so as we speak.
Well Preacher lets see, What do you think would have happened if the Government had acted on the information they were given well in advance of the attack? What would happen if we forgave instead of punished(As God and our saviour Jesushas commanded)?Why should we think that it is so awful that this should happen to us when this happens to other countries much more frequently and we turn a blind eye to it? We need to spread the idea of democracy through Peace and Education and remember that until the majorityof theCITIZENS of any country decide that a change must occur and become willing to take whatever action necessary to bring it about, including the sacrifice of their own lives, that nothing and no other country will be able to do this for them. I was told from a fellow I know that was in Iraq (Army)that He beleived what you beleive until He served there, and now he struggles to understand how he could have been duped into such beleifs after seeing the stark truth of the matter through his own experience in Iraq. I'll take his word for it because expereience IS the best teacher. Respectfully, Ed
Well Preacher lets see, What do you think would have happened if the Government had acted on the information they were given well in advance of the attack?
"Al Queda may try to use a plane as a weapon against a target somewhere in the U.S. sometime"
You mean that intellegence, seems like they really should have known what was going on.
With all of the resources available to our intelligence services I most certainly think just off the top of my head(not a large one), that they could have looked into the possibility of this happening and maybe ATTEMPTED to see howterrorists might do such a thing, like maybe look into flight schools to see who's enrolled or effect some policies regarding Air Travel to be aware of this possibility. The problem with alot of things is that something bad has to happen BEFORE we look at what to do to prevent this.Bin-Laden is no genius in fact what he did was quite simple. It seems with alot of things in our country today that We tend to over-complicate things and overlook common sense as a result. I do not have all the answers to all the questions and don't suppose anyone does but Common Sense is more valuable than an expensive education will ever be. The war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11 and thats a common sense FACT, but now that we have done what we've done in Iraq i do beleive we must, for the Iraqi peoples sake, leave themin least some form of a decent condition.Maybe if many people were not so afraid of new ideas and forward thinking we could see ways to prevent some problems before, in hindsight we see what weshould and could've done to avoid it and I don't mean with bombs and bullets.
If our troops want a thank you they need to look for it from Iraqi people because they aren't doing anytrhing over in Iraq that ensures my freedom at all. I appreciate their intentions but sometimes the best intentions can lead us into the worst of circumstances. I love my country and wish for it to be a better place but unfortunately it's not heading that way because of the time and energy that's being spent in the rest of the world.
I could not have said it better myself...He is totaly right..If the troops want a thank you they need to get it from the iraqi people..
"I wonder how you felt when those planes crashed into the towers. .... I think your head is in the sand ..... JMO"
Sir:With all due respect: What did Iraq have to do with 9/11? 9/11 was planned by a Saudi terrorist operating from Afghanistan.15 of 19 hijackers were Saudi.
2nd Amm. and Iraq war contradiction
