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Old 04-02-2007, 02:43 PM   #1
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TB victim is locked up in Arizona

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Robert Daniels has been locked up indefinitely, perhaps for the rest of his life, since last July. But he has not been charged with a crime. Instead, he suffers from an extensively drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis, or XDR-TB. It is considered virtually untreatable.
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Seems like the Health Department tossed the Constitution into the waste incinerator. Unless this man demonstrates a deliberate criminal attempt to sicken other people, he has not violated the law, and it is his right to move freely and enjoy life as he pleases.
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:04 PM   #2
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Bet that this guy was prescribed TB meds and then quit taking them after awhile. This is how TB became so resistant in the first place:Saw adocumentary on this on TV a couple of years ago. A nurse lay dying in a Baltimore hospital because shequit taking her Anti-TB meds and when she startedher drugs againit was so resistant that nothing would work.

An aunt of mine died of TB in 1929. Her sister also lost a lung to TB.
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Now are they issuing him marijuana for his "pain" and letting him drink lots of liquor, eat well and get all the sports channels? This could be a setup on his part you know.
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Now are they issuing him marijuana for his "pain" and letting him drink lots of liquor, eat well and get all the sports channels?Â* This could be a setup on his part you know.
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:56 AM   #5
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That's a tough one, the guys comes here from russia to get treated, stops taking his meds and then refuses to weara mask to avoid infecting others.
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:56 AM   #6
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How did they toss the Constitution in the incinerator?

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County health authorities obtained a court order to lock him up as a danger to the public because he failed to take precautions to avoid infecting others. Specifically, he said he did not heed doctors' instructions to wear a mask in public.
The guy has an untreatable, lethal disease, and he refused to take ordinary precautions to prevent infecting others. Keep in mind that this Is a communicable disease that can be transmitted merely by breathing the same air... He was locked up following judicial review. This wasn't just some adminstrator acting on a whim.
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:32 PM   #7
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The guy has an untreatable, lethal disease, and he refused to take ordinary precautions to prevent infecting others. Keep in mind that this Is a communicable disease that can be transmitted merely by breathing the same air... He was locked up following judicial review. This wasn't just some adminstrator acting on a whim.
Ever hear of the Fourth Amendment? I think the Eighth might've taken a blow as well in this case. The public doesn't have a right not to come in contact with TB. They don't have a right to tell people who to treat their illnesses. Quarantining this guy against his will, on the other hand,is a violation of his rights! Maybe this is how they do things at the county level, but wait until it makes its way up the ladder.
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What if he had Ebola instead Aught? Would that be different? Should ebola victims, who could easily decimate our population, be segregated against their will for public safety? The TB was curable until he took the responsibility of not correctly following his prescribed course of treatment, a willful and dangerous act on his part. Peoplw who know they have AIDS and spread it out of spite are very often locked up for doing so, and should be. Spock was right this one time, sometimes the needs of the many do outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:18 AM   #9
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it's definitely an interesting question. back in the early days of the aids scare, (and several careers ago) i did a fair amount of research on the potential for quarantine of aids sufferers. i found the vast majority of case law from the early to mid 20th century supported forcible quarantine of those with contagious TB, so long as due process was accorded.
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"They don't have a right to tell people who to treat their illnesses. Quarantining this guy against his will, on the other hand,is a violation of his rights!"

Bet you would change your mind if a loved one of yours caught TB from the guy.
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