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Old 03-27-2007, 06:09 PM   #1
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Default Lead Bullets Could be Outlawed in California

http://www.uniondemocrat.com/news/story.cfm?story_no=23083

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In California, and Tuolumne and Calaveras counties especially, hunting is something revered by many generations, passed from father to son or daughter with a sense of pride and participation.
However, a statewide issue has come into focus that may affect the "heart of the art," by forcing hunters to use non-lead bullets.

The issue
In the early 1950s, lead was deemed by the state Department of Fish and Game (DFG) to be a cause of mortality in some wildlife, particularly in waterfowl (ducks or geese) and fish. The animals were ingesting fragments of lead from sinkers or hunting pellets, causing them to experience lead poisoning that led to behavioral changes, illness and even death depending on the amounts.
After years of political wrangling, in 1991 a nationwide ban was enacted on lead shot for hunting waterfowl.
Shooters still are allowed to use lead shot for upland bird and mammal hunting, target practice, trap shooting and other legitimate shooting.
Now, a strict ban on the use of lead bullets is being sought.
"The majority of hunters still use lead and if they forced every hunter in California, out of the blue, to stop using lead and switch to something else, it would be a huge hardship," said retired Fish and Game Biologist Jim Maddox. "Every hunter in the state owns lead bullets and there really aren't many different, or available, options out there."
The centerpiece of the environmentalist effort is the California Condor. In 1987 there were only 22 left in the wild and a decision was made to capture them in an attempt to repopulate the nearly extinct species. Reintroduction to natural habitats in California began in 1992 and there are currently 68 free-flying condors in California, and about 130 overall with populations also established in Arizona and Mexico.
Yet environmentalists fear the huge birds still are in danger of extinction because of factors that include habitat loss, oil and gas drilling activities, shootings and death via power lines "” but especially lead poisoning, which is called by environmental groups "the greatest obstacle to full recovery of the condor."
"There is biological evidence it is effecting the condor negatively," said Maddox. "A reasonable and prudent approach is necessary when considering what to do; the Department of Fish and Game can either limit all use of lead bullets, limit it in condor habitats, or do nothing."
According to a report compiled by a team of experts at the request of the DFG in February 2007, since 1992, 15 condors have died and more than 30 have required emergency blood treatment because of lead poisoning.
Condors primarily feed on carrion "” the carcasses of dead animals. Many of the condors' meals are deceased because of hunters and that those hunters most likely used lead-based bullets.
"Right now the Department of Fish and Game requires that when you are deer hunting, the bullets have a lead tip," said Connie Youngman, owner and operator of B-Bar-Y Traders in Jamestown. "Otherwise the bullet would go straight through the animal and it would take much longer for it to die, or possibly just wound it."
In 2005, the California Fish and Game Commission denied requests to regulate lead contamination in the range of the condor, leading to a November 2006 lawsuit that was filed by Native American, conservation and health organizations, and even some hunters to ban the use of lead ammunition.
In response, the commission is revisiting the issue next month during its triennial California hunting regulations meeting.
According to spokesperson for the DFG, Steve Martarano, four options have been proposed to the commission:
"¢Banning lead bullets in the traditional condor range for big game (deer, pigs, elk, etc.) which includes deer hunting zones down the Northern California coastal range from San Francisco to San Luis Obispo, and in the southeastern part of California.
"¢ Expand the banning of lead bullets in additional ranges to include most of the Southern Sierra Nevada, which is considered historical condor range but does not include Tuolumne or Calaveras counties.
"¢Ban all lead bullets used in big game hunting.
"¢ No action.
"We really would prefer the first option," said Martarano. "We already have taken steps in the direction of using non-lead bullets in these areas by encouraging hunters to use alternatives.
"We have seminars demonstrating that the new types of bullets perform just as well as the lead, and the nearby stores do sell them," Martarano continued. "But we understand that they are a bit more expensive, and hope that in the near future we can offer some sort of incentive to help hunters pick up the cost."
According to the Web site for the Center for Biological Diversity, which headed the anti-lead campaign that was launched in December 2006, Tejon Ranch is banning non-lead ammunition for all hunting and predator control starting this fall.
Tejon, a 270,000-acre preserve, located just east of Ventura County in the Tehachapi Mountains, is home to the state's largest private hunting program.
The center claims on the Web, "If Tejon can go lead-free, the rest of California should be able to follow suit."

Our area
According to the Web site of the Central Sierra Audubon Society, the California Condor is on the "highly unlikely" list of viewable birds in the Central Sierra.
Yet the Sierra Nevada Ecosystems Project Web site claims that the California Condor did once live in the Mother Lode.
"Condors selected nest sites in cliffs and even in giant sequoias, which brought them well into the west slope of the Sierra as far north as Tuolumne County," claims the site.
Tuolumne County Historian Carlo DeFerrari said, "There is only one documented reference to one being in Tuolumne County that I know, but there may have been more."
DeFerrari cites a journal by famous naturalist John W. Audubon, who claims he clearly saw three to four condors in Tuolumne County, near Hawkins Bar on the Tuolumne River, in March 1850.

What's ahead
Condors or no in the foothills, if regulations are adopted in favor of banning all lead bullets in California, a wave of change could overtake the area's large hunting community.
"About 90 percent of bullets have lead in them, and there are other options, but they are pricey," said Angels Gun Club range master Dave Verhalen. "It's really expensive ... some of that stuff it's so pricey (there are only 10 bullets) per box."
"The alternate Thompson's Carbite Shot are about $52.95 for a box of 10, steel shot $21.95, and lead $14.95," said Youngman. "The carbite stuff has to be molded, so it's really costly."
According to Martarano, "It's up to the California Fish and Game Commission, and their next meeting will be April 12 in Bodega Bay."


All because the California Condor[:@]
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Old 03-27-2007, 07:56 PM   #2
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I tell ya Barnes bullets are gettin ready to be the biggest bullet seller in the US. They got a niche and one day are going to be in serious demand.
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:04 AM   #3
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ooops. condors are endangered? (as boysda unobtrusively puts his condor salad sandwich under the table)
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just one of the many tactics used to further progress in "de-gunning" Americans...
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just one of the many tactics used to further progress in "de-gunning" Americans...
Exactly. They've used various excuse over the years in Kookifornia to ban both guns and hunting, the poor wittle condor is just the latest dodge. I figure that any critter that has a low population to begin with because of their habitat and breeding success rate that's stupid enough to eat an inedible chunk of metal pretty much deserves to go extinct, Darwin would undoubtedly agree.
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I dont even want to imagine what would happen to the prices of steel, tungsten, ect. shot it would go insane! They should capture all the condors and put them in zoos until there population is 1million and until then leave us hunters alone.
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Old 03-28-2007, 02:20 PM   #7
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They should capture all the condors and put them in zoos until there population is 1million and until then leave us hunters alone.
That would indeed be the best solution since they aren't actually contributing much to the ecosystem anymore and there are plenty of other scavengers. Even if they cloned enough of them to totally repopulate the species the state would still be trying to find a way to outlaw firearms for the cizenry, one of the many reasons why I no longer live there.
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So I guess lead in bullets = lead poisoning in condors? I guess I missed the part where the lead poisoning was positively linked to the lead in bullets.[&:]
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Exactly. They've used various excuse over the years in Kookifornia to ban both guns and hunting, the poor wittle condor is just the latest dodge. I figure that any critter that has a low population to begin with because of their habitat and breeding success rate that's stupid enough to eat an inedible chunk of metal pretty much deserves to go extinct, Darwin would undoubtedly agree.
YES, well said.
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The bad thing is when they pushed to outlaw lead shot for waterfowl it ended up being anationwide ban. So this could end up affecting everyone. Could you imagine shooting trap with $15 a box steel shot, that would suck...
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