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Old 03-21-2007, 07:42 AM   #1
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Default You dont have to retreat anymore in Texas

A bill will be signed by Gov. Perry that states, we Texas do not have to retreat before using deadly force. It was passed with no debate 133-13 and is waiting to be signed. So now, you can not be charged for shoting someone who breaks into your house. Seems like that would be a no brainer, but up to this point, we had to prove there was no means of retreat. If we had passed the castle doctrine long ago, we wouldnt have to be passing this new bill. Any way, we can no kill you for breaking in, so dont try to break into a persons house, car, or work, because we can now kill you dead. As if there was some other sort of killing. So if you break into our house with the intent to kill us, we can kill you back.
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Old 03-21-2007, 07:59 AM   #3
 
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A bill will be signed by Gov. Perry that states, we Texas do not have to retreat before using deadly force. It was passed with no debate 133-13 and is waiting to be signed. So now, you can not be charged for shoting someone who breaks into your house. Seems like that would be a no brainer, but up to this point, we had to prove there was no means of retreat. If we had passed the castle doctrine long ago, we wouldnt have to be passing this new bill. Any way, we can no kill you for breaking in, so dont try to break into a persons house, car, or work, because we can now kill you dead. As if there was some other sort of killing. So if you break into our house with the intent to kill us, we can kill you back.
So does the legisation cover the "wrongful death lawsuit" that is sure tofollow by the poor criminals family after death?
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Old 03-21-2007, 08:15 AM   #4
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So does the legisation cover the "wrongful death lawsuit" that is sure tofollow by the poor criminals family after death?
It SHOULD be a part of the law that (1) if someone breaks into your house with the intent to harm you or steal your stuff, (2) you shoot them, and (3) their family then sues you for "wrongful death", you can go shoot the idiots in their family as well (and their attorney)...

Unfortunately, the legislature probably didn't include that part...
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Old 03-21-2007, 08:24 AM   #5
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It has always been the law in Michigan that you do not have a duty to retreat if you are in your own home. And I'll betcha that's been the case in Texas also.

If you check more closely I'll bet you'll find that what they did was rule out civil liability. In other words you can't be sued for shooting someone who breaks into your home.

Second, I believe that the bill overrules the duty to retreat if you are NOTin your own home. In other words you cannot be charged if you are confronted with a threat to yourself out on the street. You can shoot instead of running.
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So does the legisation cover the "wrongful death lawsuit" that is sure tofollow by the poor criminals family after death?
It SHOULD be a part of the law that (1) if someone breaks into your house with the intent to harm you or steal your stuff, (2) you shoot them, and (3) their family then sues you for "wrongful death", you can go shoot the idiots in their family as well (and their attorney)...

Unfortunately, the legislature probably didn't include that part...
I kind of like your take.
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Old 03-21-2007, 08:50 AM   #7
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I call that a common sense Law!
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Old 03-21-2007, 10:04 AM   #8
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Default RE: You dont have to retreat anymore in Texas

Kentucky recently passed similar legislation and just in time. Just the other day a fellow lit up an intruder.
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"So does the legisation cover the "wrongful death lawsuit" that is sure tofollow by the poor criminals family after death?"

Ths Oklahoma law does cover this. The family of the deceased perp is not allowed to sue in civil court in OK.

Here is an article in a UK newspaper, no less. Gives a little history on why this OK law was passed.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;sessionid=10B2NQ2HU4IYDQFIQMFSM5OAVCBQ0 JVC?xml=/news/2004/10/31/nburg231.xml
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"So does the legisation cover the "wrongful death lawsuit" that is sure tofollow by the poor criminals family after death?"

Ths Oklahoma law does cover this. The family of the deceased perp is not allowed to sue in civil court in OK.

Here is an article in a UK newspaper, no less. Gives a little history on why this OK law was passed.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;sessionid=10B2NQ2HU4IYDQFIQMFSM5OAVCBQ0 JVC?xml=/news/2004/10/31/nburg231.xml
The law makes a lot of sense and should immediately be implemented in every state.
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