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Old 03-07-2007, 03:29 PM   #1
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Got this in an email. Not sure of its legitimacy, but interesting none the less.
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What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of
jihad By Ted
>> Sampley U.S. Veteran Dispatch January 2007
>>
>>
>> Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United
States
>> congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the

>> Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States
>> during his ceremonial swearing-in.
>> Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew
>> more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House.
>> Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.
>>
>>
>> The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to
Thomas
>> Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's
>> founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of
the
>> Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived
in
>> the library.
>>
>>
>> Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in
>> college, said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed
that
>> "a visionary like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned
from
>> many sources.
>> There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom
>> could be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned

>> the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because
he
>> was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of
>> Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.
>>
>>
>> Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject
once
>> well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is
>> mostly forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries
>> enslaved millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian
>> Europeans and Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states.
>>
>>
>> Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African
and
>> Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves The
>> taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages
had
>> a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as

>> many of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the
>> preferred "booty" of only young women and children could be
collected.
>>
>>
>> Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as
>> concubines in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual
>> interests of Muslim men by allowing them to take as many as four
wives
>> at one time and to have as many concubines as their fortunes allow.
>>
>>
>> Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create
>> eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the
Middle
>> East.
>> Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African
slave
>> routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated
>> that only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation
>> survived after the surgery.
>>
>>
>> When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776,
American
>> merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for
>> protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews
>> enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of

>> Algiers"--an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.
>>
>>
>> Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by

>> the pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate
>> treaties with the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special
>> commission consisting of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin
>> Franklin, to oversee the negotiations.
>>
>>
>> Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the
Mediterranean,
>> the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by
>> agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized
American
>> ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors. Adams argued in favor
of
>> paying tribute as the cheapest way to get American commerce in the
>> Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He believed there
>> would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled

>> "through the medium of war."
>> He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim
>> piracy.
>> In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and
Adams,
>> then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji

>> Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.
>>
>>
>> The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress'
vote
>> to appease.During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's
>> ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a
nation
>> with which they had no previous contacts. In a later meeting with the

>> American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador

>> Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on
the
>> Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all
>> nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were
sinners,
>> that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they
>> could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as
Prisoners,
>> and that every Musselman
>> (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."
>>
>>
>> For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims
>> millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the
return
>> of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to
20
>> percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800. Not long

>> after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a
>> group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean,
and
>> informed Congress.
>>
>>
>> Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but
not
>> one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying
American
>> Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary
>> Coast.The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS
>> Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action. In
>> 1805, American Marines marched across the dessert from Egypt into
>> Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all

>> American slaves.
>>
>>
>> During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States,
>> crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on
shore
>> raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and
>> piracy.
>> Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine
Hymn,
>> with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli,
we
>> will fight our country's battles on the land as on the sea."
>>
>>
>> It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total
>> defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates. Jefferson had been
>> right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the
Muslim
>> problem. Mr.
>> Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough
to
>> read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:13 PM   #2
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I heard them muslim slave chicks were pretty hot back then[8D]
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:01 PM   #3
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Interesting reading for sure. Terrorism and muslim radicals have been a problem for a mighty long time, and I agree with Jefferson's statement
The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the
Muslim problem.

Same rings true today in my opinion.
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