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Old 03-02-2007, 08:15 AM   #1
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Default Should this lawsuit be allowed?

But we designed them for a Cat 3 hurricane!

The city of New Orleans is suing the Army Corps of Engineers for $77B for the failure of the levees resulting in the massive flooding of the city during hurricane katrina, the levees were designed to withstand no more than a Cat 3 hurricane , should the suit be allowed to proceed?





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Old 03-02-2007, 08:40 AM   #3
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The idiots have know since the 60s this was going to happen. N.O. voted down a project to build a sea wall and fix the levees in the 60s (my uncle was going to be part of that project). When you insist on living in a soup bowl and know the "Thick and chuncky" is going to fill it, and you stay without fixing the problem, I have little sympathy. And the crazy thing, people are moving back.
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Old 03-02-2007, 09:38 AM   #5
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Default RE: Should this lawsuit be allowed?

Why has New Orleans become the laughing stock of our country? I know a few people from the Big Easy and they're good people, so I know that the stunts being pulled by their municipal government officials do not speak for the entire city, but still . . .

Is it safe to say that any other city would react the same way? If, for instance, L.A. was hit by a tsunami that destroyed the city or New York City by a hurricane that destroyed the city? Or is the seemingly non-stop ludicrousness out of N'Awlins in the last 1.5 years simply a sign of the quality of folks in charge down there?
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Old 03-02-2007, 11:27 AM   #7
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The Big Easy always had the chance to bring the levies up to cat 5 standards and they chose to not spend the money. Graft and corruption is rampant in that place. Too many crooked pockets to fill for any worthwhile project to succeed.
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Old 03-02-2007, 11:38 AM   #8
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I depends on specifics ofthe contract - if they were supposed to build something to withstand a Category 5, then the answer is yes.

However, if they were only obliged to perform insofar as to prevent a Category 3 from demolishing the place, then no.
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The only parties that are accountable are the ones who were made aware of the shortcomngs of th elevees, and who sat on their wallets, without a proper asessment and any foresight. Start with Mr. Mayor.
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Old 03-02-2007, 12:08 PM   #10
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I've read somewhere before how the N.O. officials deliberately chose not to build the levees up further (local corruption and graft issues) and also how Congress voted not to fund building the levees to a category 5 level. The below story would also seem to indicate that the construction quality of the existing levees themselves was not up to spec either. It will be interesting to see what happens with this and also to see what the different groups do to resolve what we all recognize is a continuing problem.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9532037/

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"This is fairly typical of some of the failures we've seen," says Professor Ivor van Heerden, a hurricane expert at Louisiana State University who has examined the wreckage. "These walls underwent catastrophic structural failure."

But why?

NBC News has obtained what may be a key clue, hidden in long forgotten legal documents. They reveal that when the floodwall on the 17th Street Canal was built a decade ago, there were major construction problems " problems brought to the attention of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

A 1998 ruling, by an administrative judge for the Corps' Board of Contract Appeals, shows that the contractor, Pittman Construction, told the Corps that the soil and the foundation for the walls were "not of sufficient strength, rigidity and stability" to build on.


"That's incredibly damning evidence," says van Heerden, "I mean, really, incredibly damning."
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