Libs hunt

[j_beste]

I have to admit that I am astonished to see so many hunters aligned with a political agenda that seeks to end the very sport this site is based on.

ORIGINAL: j_beste

I have to admit that I am astonished to see so many hunters aligned with a political agenda that seeks to end the very sport this site is based on.

Very small minority. I have a feeling some don't care much about the sport as they say. What does one do when they are small, and encounter a bear? Try to make alot of noice and look big

[david m]

it should not astonish you that there are folks out there who do not agree with the same things you believe.

it's pretty much been that way since humans have existed....which has been afairly long time.

ORIGINAL: david m

it should not astonish you that there are folks out there who do not agree with the same things you believe.

it's pretty much been that way since humans have existed....which has been afairly long time.

Really your kidding. Holy cow, we havn't had insight like this on the board in so many years. We are lucky to have ya on here David.

Keep them pearls coming. I think I got to get a piece of paper and write these down.

[boysda]

perhaps all us "libs" should be required to take HNI Loyalty Oaths[8D]

[CalHunter]

Boysda, I don't recall you ever saying you've supported Dem politicians who are in favor of gun control. I know you're spoofing with your post but members need to realize that not all liberals are for gun control (just most of them). although some HNI members are sadly willing to accept some gun controls (like banning AR-15's), most members (including Boysda I believe) are not. Sorry if I embarrassed you Boysda but I didn't want to see a misperception continue even though I know you're a big boy and can handle yourself.

[Alsatian]

Political affiliations are a complicated matter. My father was an ardent Democrat until the day he died, and yet a life NRA member, a reloader, a skeet shooter, a deer hunter, a pheasant hunter, a gun builder, pretty much a classic gun nut I think it is fair to say. I suspect his political affiliation was established early on in his life when he saw the Democrats stand up for the little guy -- and he was such a "little guy," no silver spoon in his mouth, no blue chip stocks in his investment portfolio, born a farmer, lived through the depression on the farm -- and the Republicans appeared to side with big money interests. I'm not testifying either way, just speculating why he acted as though he had "Democrat" tatooed on his forhead.

Human beings have very selective attention processes. I smoked moderately to heavily for 20 years. I quit because I didn't want to kill myself smoking, I wanted to be around to see my kids through college and see my grandchildren. I knew the dangers and risks of smoking early on. Why did I wait to quit? Selective attention process. I imagine the Democrats among us can dial down or divert their attention from the anti-gun components of some Democrats and instead concentrate their attention on other activities of their favored Democrats that they applaud. Surely there are some bad aspects of the bahavior of Republican leaders which we selectively choose not to dwell upon. I think selective attention explains much here.

[ipscshooter]

Can we institute a new rule that all liberals must go hunting with V.P. Cheney?

[PreacherTony]

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

Really your kidding. Holy cow, we havn't had insight like this on the board in so many years. We are lucky to have ya on here David.

Keep them pearls coming. I think I got to get a piece of paper and write these down.

Mark .... you are hilarious! .... I just caught my breath!!!

Yaknow what bothers me more than the anti's ..... the luke warm, pacifistic, non-voting, sportsman that do not think they can make a difference. They are the ones who will cry the loudest when their guns are taken away.

[boysda]

ORIGINAL: CalHunter

Boysda, I don't recall you ever saying you've supported Dem politicians who are in favor of gun control. I know you're spoofing with your post but members need to realize that not all liberals are for gun control (just most of them). although some HNI members are sadly willing to accept some gun controls (like banning AR-15's), most members (including Boysda I believe) are not. Sorry if I embarrassed you Boysda but I didn't want to see a misperception continue even though I know you're a big boy and can handle yourself.

you're absolutely right, Cal, You and Alsatian basically wrote what I was thinking (except in Alsatian's case it was much moire eloquent than my somewhat lurchcing thought process). Friday was a busy day, and i choose quick irony over a thoughtful response.

On issues like gun control, I'm an unusual Dem, but by no means alone in my viewpoint. I believe existing laws need to be supported and enforced to their fullest before any new measures are even thought of. As far as further restrictions, I aproach gun ownershiop like all of my civil liberties-
1.I recognize every right I have guaranteed under the bill of rights is capable of some reasonable restriction, if there is a compelling need.
2. I will generally oppose those restrictions, but can be persuaded otherwise if someone can a) establish the compelling need, b) establish that the curtailment of the particular right is reasonable and limited in nature, c) other methods that do not impact on my civil liberties have been tried found uneffective, and d) the proposed curtailment is reasonably likely to have the desired effect on the problem.

Most instances of gun control I have looked at (like the AWB) easily fail the fourth test.