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Old 02-28-2007, 05:56 AM   #1
 
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Default Zumbo and the Brady campaign: in cahoots?

I suppose I need to go dig in the back of the closet and find that old tin hat, brush the dust off of it and plop it down on my noggin for considering conspiracy theories.

But I was thinking about our friend Mr. Zumbo. Let me preface this by saying, for what it's worth, I'm ready to forget and forgive, IF his comments were truly innocent comments. He has lost a lot, he has apologized profusely even when it could no longer help him save his job(s), and now that a statement has been powerfully made that he does not reflect the hunting/shooting community's view on 'assault' rifles, I'm all for him being able to start rebuilding his reputation.

Before I can get to that point of forget and forgive, I have to wonder about his comments a bit. They were made just three days after Rep. Carolyn McCarthy introduced her Assault Weapons Ban of 2007 in the House. And the speed with which Zumbo's comments appeared on the Brady campaign's blog was almost dizzying.

Could it be that Zumbo was lending his support to the Brady campaign, not expecting the outrage that would result? From a well-funded lobbying group such as the Brady campaign, I bet there would be some good money in it for a noted gunowner who would say things favorable to their cause.

I'm not saying. I'm just asking. That's all.
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The timing of Zumbo's liberal outburst was just right. Cannot believe that it was just a coincidence that the AWB had just been introduced in the US House.
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Old 02-28-2007, 06:46 AM   #3
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I think that there are many of us who feel that this was quite a "coincidence." Either that or the woman is a fortune teller.People have thrown professional sports games, horse races, and there is even inside trading on the stock market. Anytime there is $$ to be made, there is the possibility of corruption.
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Are you saying that Zumbo has helped the brady cause? Is that part of the reason folks are upset with him?
I have no idea if what he said will help their cause or not. Only time will tell. I suspect that the backlash from his comments will send a strong message that Zumbo did not speak for all of us. But prior to that backlash, Zumbo was considered a spokesman for the hunting community. You might know that he doesn't speak for you and I might know that he doesn't speak for me, but outside the hunting community, it's viewed differently. He's a prolific writer, he's sponsored by the nation's most popular gun maker, and so pretty soon those who aren't as educated about the hunting industry as we are go from saying "Well, Jim Zumbo is saying that AR and AK rifles should be banned" to saying "Well, hunters are saying that AR and AK rifles should be banned."

I have no idea whether his comments helped or will help the Brady campaign, but I know they were anxious to try to use them to help their campaign. And speaking only for myself, yes, that's why I was upset with him.

And in case you were trying to bait me, I am not happy with the FOP or any other organization that supports the Brady campaign's initiatives, either. I have some friends who are LEOs and are members of the FOP and I've talked to them about this very subject. They say that they don't support it but I try to make them see that by being a member of the FOP, they're lending their support to it whether they want to or not. It's sorta like teachers who are members of the NEA. It took some effort before I finally convinced my wife not to join NEA and lend her monetary support to their liberal causes.
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yes, that slick old Zumbo is actually the lover of Boxer and Brady and Reno, a spy and infiltrater into the pro-gun network, placed there 45 years ago, so that one day, when the time is right, he can type into his blog anti-assault weapons remarks that will shake the foundation of the 2nd Amendment, bringing chaos and death and destruction to all who own gun ........ yeah, very feasible, makes very good logical sense [:-]
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Ethan, Ethan, Ethan. I know you aren't this short-sighted. I've already said on this thread and the other thread that I oppose the FOP's stance on this issue and I've told FOP members who I personally know that I oppose that stance. Others have said essentially the same thing. If you're not seeing it, it's because you don't want to see it.

Now that we all agree that we oppose their stance, what would you have us do? When 6,000 hunters e-mail Outdoor Life, they have to sit up and take notice, because that's 6,000 potential subscribers. When 6,000 hunters e-mail FOP, they don't have to sit up and take notice. Because we have no impact on them. You control your own. We did that with Zumbo. It's up to FOP members who are pro-gun to take care of their organization. Hunters can't change the FOP's mind no more than FOP would be able to change Zumbo's mind.

Now, as for our activism on gun issues, you're taking a few comments from this board and trying to construe them to your liking. You suggest that we only attack Zumbo because he's an easy target. Let me tell you something, Mr. Dickey. I spend hours and hours of my personal time each year combatting the efforts of anti-gunners to impede on our Second Amendment rights. How dare you to presume what I do or do not do. Do you do anything to fight for our Second Amendment rights? Or do you spend all your time on this forum insulting those who are standing up for Second Amendment rights? You make it clear that you aren't interested in an honest debate. You're just here to stir up crap. Your argument is so incredibly silly, so incredibly childish, so incredibly baseless, that I can't believe any of us are wasting our time responding to you.

Heck, I can't believe I'm bringing myself down to your level. I hate wimping out of an argument, but I'm going to have to use the ignore feature on you again. Good riddance.
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