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Old 02-19-2007, 09:01 AM   #1
 
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:17 AM   #2
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Just off the AP wires: it's all Bush's fault, so let's imprison him in Gitmo, pull out of Iraq, and redeploy our entire military force to Kabul. Then the world will have peace, justice, and the American Way!
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It is of no suprise to me. War has always been the conservative's favorite way of making huge profits, and being dishonest in making profits is just par for the course.
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Wya does have a knack for making himself seem ineffective at appointing people that are capable of performing the task assigned them.
Katrina is still in the news , how much has been stolen in that fiasco?
With Chaney's ties to Haliburton most would think that an intelligent man would go out of he's way to make sure there was not the appearance of misappropriation going their way but just the opposite is what has happened.

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It is of no suprise to me. War has always been the conservative's favorite way of making huge profits, and being dishonest in making profits is just par for the course.
Unless the conservatives in our government are receiving kick-backs or other illegal compensation, how are they making profits off of war? I can't believe howoften I hear those kind of allegations without any substantial proof. The anti-conservative (or anti-money, anti-war, etc.) groups' stereotypes are amazing, especially when held up to the light and debunked.

Seems to me this money was wasted because of standard federal bureaucratic inefficiency (never limited to one political faction or another), poor oversight (particularly for such a large project), waste on the part of contractors (necessary evil), and a really pathetic and corrupt Iraqi government. This money came from Congress, not the White House, and Congress didn't do its job making sure everything went where it was supposed to. It was ripe for the taking once the contractors figured out what the deal was.
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Typical appologist drivel.

Disgraceful.
LOL, I knew you were going to sling around the dreaded word 'apologist'.

Come on, Ifferd, you're really letting a lot of us down nowadays. Come on, get up here and dissect my statements. I gave it to you straight, and if you don't want to accept that, by all means, outline your point of view. Not that you haven't been harping on this for years nows, but please, take the floor.
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What I expect to see happen is that Halliburton's, and others, accountants will submit their own audits and additional supporting documentation; it will turn out that the initial "overcharges" were overestimated; and Halliburton, and others, will pay back whatever the two sides settle on as the actual overcharge. I believe thishappened before, and that Halliburton refunded their "overcharges".

And, there's only one "p" in apologist.
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Nothing to disect Aught. You'd have to have a vaild point and citable references for that to happen.
Ahahahaha! Are you kidding me?! This isn't some academic study--it's an Internet discussion of government waste! Please tell me how Congress didn't authorize use of the money wasted (or perhaps somehow all of the nation's taxes mysteriously deposit into Bush's personal checking account). Then maybe you can explain how the bloated federal government doesn't waste money just by existing. Further, I'd like to know know exactly cut all of the checks to the contractors, and who didn't go over the books to make sure things were kosher. That must've been Cheney, smirking menacingly in the background, right? And lastly, the contractors themselves. They've never had any history of racking up the charges on a project, have they? No possible reason for the paper pushers in DC to keep an eye on the spending.

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Hypothetical, appologist rhetoric merits no response,, other than calling it what it is,, whimpyappologist drivel. Your on the ropes and it shows.
Ifferd, help me out here. I don't see "I'm sorry" or "it's not their fault" anywhere in my posts. What I did was preempt your attack on Bush, Cheney, and Halliburton (since they're pretty muchthe Trinity of evil government overlords in your eyes), and point out some facts. Namely that there's a lot more to government that Bush or Cheney, and it has never really run efficiently on anyone's watch period.

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Excuse one offense (or appologize for it) and you encourage the comission of many.
Like I said, I'm not excusing anything. There is no excuse to blow our money like drunken sailors. What I am saying is that your beating of a dead horse is just that. Yes, government wastes; there's a war on. Chaos on the large scale, in other words. It's just a reality, and it goes well beyond the Oval Office. When, in the past few years, has Congress ever accepted responsibility for anything they have or haven't done? That's right, they haven't.

What is your point of this thread? We've gone over this many times in the past, and it always ends up as a rant against Bush. Here's one apology that I make freely:I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in your disinteresting bias. Come up with something original for once.

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(Good lesson for you to learn as you excuse the waste and theft of US tax dollars.)
LOL, you really can't seem to understand anything that isn't anti-Bush, can you? I love your logic--it's getting weaker and weaker with each passing argument. Lesson 37, from Ifferd:
[ol][*]Subject A thinks Bush isn't the root of all evil in the world;[*]The Federal government wastes money; and therefor[*]Subject A likes his tax money to be wasted.[/ol]

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