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Old 02-12-2007, 10:45 AM   #1
 
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Speaking of the presidential race, Rudy Giuliani has begun explaining some of his seemingly left-leaning positions. In particular, one is gun control. He says he used gun control as mayor, but that it had no effect on hunters. He did come out in favor of a border fence.

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Old 02-12-2007, 11:46 AM   #2
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Guliani can explain until he is blue in the face, if he supported gun control -- and there seems to be no question that he did -- he won't be getting my vote. The Second Amendment does not read ". . . the right of hunters to keep and bear hunting arms shall not be abridged." How empty headed and stupid does he think we are? This is the fond rebuttal of these gun banners, "oh, but this isn't needed, it isn't a hunting arm." Thanks for narrowing and constraining my second amendment right, bloke! Oh, you know what, most people don't have an original thought in their head anyway and so there is no need to grant them their freedom of speech rights, let's just shut that one down too while we are at it.

This makes me mindful to share this view with my two Texas Senators so that they can weigh in on the undesirability of Guliani as a Republican presidential candidate.
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:53 AM   #3
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Well of course what he did as mayor has no effect on hunters, how many folks hunt in Midtown manhattan?

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The nation needs to know, he said, who is coming into the country and why. But he provided scant details on how he would deal with illegal immigrants already in the country. Citizens, he added, should be able to read and write English.
I seem to recal that the ability to speak, read, and write in English are required for citizenship in this country, someone correct me if I'm wrong there.

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What are the requirements for becoming a naturalized united states citizen?

Generally, there are nine requirements:

An applicant for naturalization must be admitted to the United States as a "lawful permanent resident" commonly referred to as one who possesses "green card" status. There is only one exception to this requirement: If an applicant has served in the U.S. armed forces during war, that person may be naturalized without first becoming a permanent resident if they were in the U.S. upon induction or enlistment into our military.

Continuous residence in the U.S. for at least five years immediately preceding the applicant's filing for naturalization. Continuous residence is not the same thing as physically present here. That is, one must maintain their status as a "legal permanent resident" but not necessarily be physically inside the borders of the U.S. to accomplish that. For example, if one is overseas for a portion of this period, maintaining an address location and paying one's state and federal taxes may help ensure continuity of residence for this requirement. Also, if overseas for anymore than a few months, it may be advisable to obtain a "travel document" prior to departing. This may be done on INS Form I-131. Only three years "continuous residence" are required if the applicant is filing for naturalization based upon marriage.

Actual physical residence (within the state in which the petition is filed) during at least the three months immediately before filing for naturalization is another requirement.

Physical presence within the U.S. for a total of at least one half of the period of required continuous residence. That is, two and a half years for most applicants and one and a half years for spouses of U.S. Citizens.

The ability to read, write and speak ordinary English unless they are physically unable to do so due to a disability such as being blind or deaf, or suffer from a developmental disability or mental impairment. Those over 50 years old on the date of filing who have lived here for a total of at least 20 years after admission as a permanent resident and those who are over 55 and have been legal permanent residents for at least 15 years are also exempt from this requirement.

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I guess none of that applies if you swim your way in.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:53 PM   #4
 
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I want to hear just what is is that Rudyhas against gun ownership in this country. Oh Rudy,tell us about the interview where your wife first learned that you wanted a divorce.
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The gun controle thing will not be that big of an issue, or I dont believe. He doesnt support the assault weapons ban. He has stated he banned guns in NY City to keep people from walking around with guns. He is pro-hunting and pro-states rights. He might be candy coating his gun issue, but what I think will nip him in the butt is his Abortion stance. He is Catholic (even considered being a priest at one time) and was a pro-choicer. Now that he is looking for the Rep. nod, he is switching his ideas to being more pro-life. He is pan caking on this one. He will mess around and talk in circles, pissing everyone off, while trying to please everyone.
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The gun controle thing will not be that big of an issue, or I dont believe. He doesnt support the assault weapons ban. He has stated he banned guns in NY City to keep people from walking around with guns. He is pro-hunting and pro-states rights. He might be candy coating his gun issue, but what I think will nip him in the butt is his Abortion stance. He is Catholic (even considered being a priest at one time) and was a pro-choicer. Now that he is looking for the Rep. nod, he is switching his ideas to being more pro-life. He is pan caking on this one. He will mess around and talk in circles, pissing everyone off, while trying to please everyone.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:12 PM   #7
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Rudy, haven't you heard of John Locke, "More Guns, Less Crime"?
Rudy was no supporter of the 2nd Amendment and so no friend of hunters, shooting sportsmen, collectors of firearms or the average person who has a right to defend themselves.

His failure to protect the most innocent and helpless among the human race makes him unfit to be President. He's a country club liberal, small "r" republican. [&o]
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Rudy Baby once described himself as"fiscally conservative and socially liberal." So there you have it folks, a stingy liberal who hates folks who defend themselves with guns. Do not forget that he broke with the Republican party and backed Coumo's re-election as NY governor.
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I don't agree with him on some issues, but he'd get my vote any day if he ran against Obama bin Laden or Hitlery.
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"I don't agree with him on some issues, but he'd get my vote any day if he ran against Obama bin Laden or Hitlery."

Given that choiceyouwould stillvotefor a gun grabber. iwould not vote for either.
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