Hillary and the Panthers

[Goose 11]

Have any of you seen this? Pretty sad.

THIS WILL OPEN YOUR EYES!
By Paul Harvey

Conveniently Forgotten Facts

Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a fellow black
panther named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was suspected of
disloyalty. Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely
immobilized, his friends tortured him for hours by, among other
things, pouring boiling water on him.
When they got tired of torturing Rackley, Black Panther member, Warren
Kimbo took Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley's
body was later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New
Haven, Connecticut . Perhaps at this point you're curious as to what
happened to these Black Panthers? In 1977, that's only eight years
later, only one of the killers was still in jail. The shooter, Warren
Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard and became good
friends with none other than Al Gore. He later became an assistant
dean at an Eastern Connecticut State College.

Isn't that something?

As a '60s radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head and a few
years later,in the same state, you can become an assistant college
dean!



Only in America !

Erica Huggins was the woman who served the Panthers by boiling the
water for Mr Rackley's torture.
Some years later Ms Huggins was elected to a California School Board.

How in the world do you think these killers got off so easily?

Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to
the defense of the Panthers. These two people actually went so far as
to shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the
accused Black Panthers during their trial. One of these people was
none other than
Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee, or Mr. Lan Lee, as the case may be, isn't a
college dean. He isn't a member of a California School Board. He is
now head of the United States Justice Department's Civil Rights
Division, appointed by none other than Bill Clinton. OK so who was the
other Panther defender? Is this other notable Panther defender now a
school board member? Is this other Panther apologist
now an assistant college dean? No, neither! The other Panther defender
was, like Lee, a radical law student at Yale University at the time.
She is now known as the "smartest woman in the world." She is none
other than the Democratic senator from the State of New York ----our
former First Lady,
the incredible Hillary Rodham Clinton.

And now, as Paul Harvey said; "You know the rest of the story".

Pass this on!
This deserves the widest possible press. Also remember it, when, she
runs for President.

Please go to:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillarypanthers.htm_
(http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillarypanthers.htm)
and see for yourself that this is the Truth

[BenGarrett]

Thankfully, nobody is judging me for some stupid, radical viewpoints I had in college, and so I'm not going to judge Ms. Clinton on hers. Unfortunately, when most of us are college-aged, we're so idealistic we think we can change the world and in the process, we usually rally in support of or in opposition of some pretty stupid things. Forunately, most of us quickly mature and outgrow those times.

I have plenty of reasons why I despise Clinton's politics and would not vote for her. The fact that as a college student she rallied in support of a couple of Black Panthers being tried for murder certainly isn't one of them.

[Charlie P]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/panthers.asp

Nothing came up when I clicked on your links.

[Charlie P]

Neither Clinton nor Lee defended the black Panthers according to snopes.

No offense, but snopes is fairly poor place for gathering knowledge.

[Aught Six]

Hillary rubbed shoulders with all kinds of Maoist types back in the late hippy days. It's not big deal. After all, didn't just about every leftist politician who came of age during Vietnam?

[Charlie P]

This one isn't snopes

Hillary Clinton Defended Black Panther Member Accused of Murder
In 1969, Black Panthers member Alex Rackley was suspected of being a government informant. He was taken to the home of Black Panthers member Warren Kimbro, held captive for 24 hours and tortured. At that point, Kimbro, George Sams and Lonnie McLucas took Rackley to a marsh field and shot him to death. Many people took part in the torture. Eventually, 14 Black Panthers were arrested and charged in varying degrees in the death of Rackley.
One of the people charged was the leader of the group, Bobby Seales. From all accounts, Seales was not present during Rackley's torture or murder. The man who took up his defense was attorney Charles Garry.
In 1969, Hillary Clinton WAS NOT an attorney, but a law student. She worked as assistant to Charles Garry. One of her duties during the Seales trial was to organize groups of Yale students to attend and observe the trial. Of all the cases involved in Rackley's murder, this one was the most high profile since the accused had not been present during any of the events. Clinton was not directly involved in the defense of Seales, nor did she have anything to do with the defense of Kimbro or Huggins.
What happened to both Kimbro and Huggins after they served their time has nothing whatsoever to do with Clinton. She had nothing to do with any one of them "getting off easy." Indeed, she could not have had done so.
Clinton was not involved with "shutting down Yale with demonstrations," since that never happened at all. There were certainly protests over the Seales trial, but nothing on a grand scale. Although the Kent State protests turned ugly and lethal a few days later, the Yale protests were pretty tame. There is some scant evidence that Clinton may have helped organize some of these protests. However, the last time I checked, that is the right of every U.S. citizen when they feel that an injustic is happening. Don't tell those who protested the removal of the 10 Commandments monument in Alabama that we don't approve of protest!
Lee's connection with all of this is even more tenuous. Mr. Lee had nothing to do with the trials or the defense of any of these or the other Black Panthers that were to be tried for this case. He was not a lawyer, nor even a law student, but a Yale undergrad. His sole involvement in this particular case is that he expressed solidarity with the Black Panthers in that he believed that many of these trials were unfair since some being tried were not participants in the crime.He also appears to have been involved with protests. As a conservative, a patriot and a supporter of the INTENT of the U.S. Constitution, I'm afraid that I can't find fault here.
There is something about this message that bothers me and it should bother anyone who really reads it. The implication is that these people did not deserve a defense. Many innocent people are put on trial and someone must defend them. Many of our civic and elected leaders have been defense attorneys. If Clinton had defended Seales, what on earth would be wrong with that? U.S. citizens have a right to a good defense - guilty or innocent.
George Sams, Warren Kimbro and Lonnie McLucas were all convicted on various charges for the murder of Alex Rackley. Bobby Seale and Erika Huggins were eventually acquitted by a hung jury. The jury voted 11 to 1 for Seale's acquittal and 10 to 2 for Huggin's acquittal. Of course an acquitted person (Huggins) went on with her life. Of course a man who has done the time set by a jury will (hopefully) go on and get an education and contribute positively to society. Do we really want them to return to a life of crime?
Whether or not you like or approve of Ms. Clinton, truth is truth. I'm no fan myself, but this is just a matter of dirty politics. Conservatives complain about the left doing it, then do it themselves. As a conservative, I would hope for better from us.
Oh, and Paul Harvey never told this story. Urban Legends Zeitgeist says that "The email closely resembles part of an article by John McCaslin's 'Inside the Beltway' column that appeared in the June 12, 1998 issue of the Washington Times." They also say that commentator Neal Boortz has claimed the article, but they've been unable to find any verification of this. The last I heard, this great missive was reprinted in the tabloid called the Weekly World News. You the know, the one you see in the grocery store line with articles and pictures about aliens, creature people, etc. That's trustworthy reading (snicker!).

[Charlie P]

Perhaps at this late date it is difficult to imagine the deep social and political divisions in the US in the late Sixties and early Seventies. The Black Panther Party was, and still is, one of the most controversial phenomena of that time. But the linkage between Hillary Rodham Clinton to the New Haven Nine is at best tenuous. In Bill Lann Lee's case it is nonexistant.
It is hard to fault Hillary Rodham's efforts to monitor the trial. After all, the right to a fair trial is one of the fundamentals of the rule of law.
No contemporary account of the Yale protests names Hillary Rodham as one of the protest ringleaders. Nor is there any evidence that Hillary Rodham espoused the Black Panther Party's political agenda then or since. To tar Hillary Rodham Clinton with the political passions of almost thirty years ago is unfair.
What of Warren Kimbro, Erika Huggins and Bobby Seale? Warren Kimbro served his sentence and was released according to legal procedure. He can hardly be faulted for getting an education and pursuing a career. The email argues that any future success or actions must be held liable to some kind of judgement of past political acts. This is hard to square with a democratic society.
Who wrote this screed? It obviously borrows heavily from McCaslin's column. Commentator Neal Boortz (see Nealz Nuze) claims authorship but the Urban Legend Zeitgeist has been unable to verify this

[BenGarrett]

Charlie, John Elvin (Insight Magazine) did extensive research into the claim back when it first surfaced during Clinton's 2000 run for the Senate and found it to be true. His findings appeared in an article in the July 2000 edition of Insight.

[Charlie P]

Hillary Hides Her Panther Fling - media coverage of Hillary Clinton's student activities[/align]Insight on the News, July 31, 2000 by John Elvin[/align][/align]


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Mark My Words "¦...[/align]Should you save those...[/align]washington in brief -...[/align]Mark My Words "¦...[/align][/align][/align][/align][/align][/align]Hillary Rodham was a radical activist while a Yale Law School student supporting such Marxist groups as the Black Panthers, but the media gloss over her past.
The Internet is such a jumble of truths, half-truths and lies that it is little wonder questions have arisen about the legitimacy of e-mail messages linking Hillary Rodham Clinton to the Black Panthers, a group of militant desperadoes who swaggered through the 1960s in leather jackets and Che Guevara berets, armed to the teeth and as willing to use arms against police officers they called "pigs" as against each other.
"Scream, America, When You've Had Enough," reads the headline of one version of the Hillary/Panther message, which has so saturated cyberspace that it earned a spot on the highly regarded Urban Legends Website. Frequent media references call the site the leading authority on the truth or falsehood of the many rumors, scare stories and other sensational tidbits posted and shared on the Internet by true believers, the curious, pranksters and those of more sinister motives.
Teasing the reader along through an artfully crafted obstacle course of suspense-building background detail, the "Scream, America" item ultimately reaches a jarring conclusion. It contends that the first lady, now a candidate for the U.S. Senate from New York, and Bill Lann Lee, now the Justice Department's deputy attorney general in charge of civil rights, as students at Yale University were leaders of violent protests in defense of the nine Black Panthers accused in the brutal torture and murder of Alex Rackley, a young member of their group suspected of being a police informant.
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[/align]According to the experts at Urban Legends, the story is false. "There's no record of either of them [Rodham or Lee] organizing any of the campus protests. Mind you, they could well have taken part in the marches and chest-thumping; certainly thousands of others did," according to the debunkers.
When radicals threatened armed violence, torched campus buildings, shut down the university and agitated for the release of accused murderers, readers are told, Rodham and Lee were, if involved at all, unidentifiable flotsam swept along in the swelling sea of student protest. Rodham's "only connection to the Panther case" is that she helped organize a group of law students to monitor the case on behalf of the American Civil Liberties Union. It was just sort of an after-school project, like raising a lamb for Future Farmers of America or something. The "Scream, America" item is dismissed as a "political screed against the Clintons" typified by "wild exaggerations" and "outright lies."
As though to lay waste to any remaining doubts in the skeptical mind, the site goes on at length to vouch for the Panthers as a fairly inevitable, hardly blameworthy cultural phenomenon. Considered by some as scamming sociopaths, they actually were the vanguard of resistance by "a downtrodden and marginalized group of people who had been enslaved, discriminated against and denied civil-rights protection for hundreds of years...." That declaration has been considered sufficient by mainstream media lights ranging from the Washington Post to National Public Radio.
Case closed? Hardly. Insight, barraged by inquiries from readers demanding the rest of the story, dug into the "Scream, America" allegations. Where did they start? Who was behind them? Was there any factual basis for the charges? Versions of the tale quickly were found in several newspaper and magazine columns, but without attribution. Certainly this story must have begun somewhere. And, at length, Insight found a source that appeared to stand the test of credibility. That source is David Horowitz, a former sixties radical who since has become a provocative conservative guru. Horowitz is a best-selling author, publisher of magazines, newsletters and Internet sites, captain of a think tank, conductor of famed cultural events and celebrity guest on talk shows. But throughout the sixties, Horowitz was a major player in radical causes as coeditor of the counter-cultural Ramparts magazine, worked closely with the Black Panthers and was connected to many other leading revolutionaries in seditious organizations such as the Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS, and the Weather Underground.
Horowitz, it turns out, has stated in print and in interviews over and over again that Hillary Rodham and Lee organized demonstrations at Yale to protest the Panther trials. The "Scream, America" item appears to be a clever rehashing of his material. "The fact is that the Panthers were torturers and murderers of black people," Horowitz has said. "And Hillary Clinton and Bill Lann Lee organized those demonstrations to get them off."
One can't get much more explicit than that, but Horowitz expounded on the theme in an interview with Insight. "It was a bunch of revolutionary law students who were trying to obstruct justice; that's what it was about. A guy was tortured and murdered; the government was trying people for the crime.... The Panther leaders who were on trial all thought it was okay to torture and murder somebody. That's what Hillary Clinton was defending, people who thought it was okay to torture and murder somebody."
This is the article with the extensive research your talking about,one person told him this David Horowitz?




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