A 21-page report from something called the "Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change" has been released today...in Paris, no less...and as expected, it's predictions are dire. According to the report: "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global mean sea level." Yeah right...we've heard all this before.
But the biggest bombshell here is this one: no matter what we do, global warming will not be reversed. It will go on for centuries, according to this report. The sea levels will continue to rise as polar ice caps melt. So I guess if Al Gore wins his Nobel Peace Prize, we'll still experience global warming. So much for riding to work everyday in your hybrid car...it's not doing a thing. The situation is futile, according to this report.
But really, it makes sense that the global warming crowd would come to this conclusion. After all, global warming is a religion. The anti-capitalist enviro-nazis don't ever want the problem to be solved. After all, if global warming were to be solved tomorrow, what would they blame the United States for? They'd have to find some other reason.
Sorry .. I'm still a skeptic. In no particular order here are just a few of the reasons why I'm not buying this man-made global warming scare:
[ul][*]The United Nations is anti-American and anti-Capitalist. In short .. I don't trust them. Not a bit. The UN would eagerly engage in any enterprise that would weaken capitalist economies around the world.[*]Because after the fall of the Soviet Union and worldwide Communism many in the anti-capitalist movement moved to the environmental movement to continue pursuing their anti-free enterprise goals. Many of the loudest proponents of man-made global warming today are confirmed anti-capitalists.[*]Because the sun is warmer .. and all of these scientists don't seem to be willing to credit a warmer sun with any of the blame for global warming.[*]The polar ice caps on Mars are melting. How did our CO2 emissions get all the way to Mars?[*]It was warmer in the 1930s across the globe than it is right now.[*]It wasn't all that long ago that these very same scientists were warning us about "global cooling" and another approaching ice age?[*]How much has the earth warmed up in the last 100 years? One degree. Now that's frightening.[*]Because that famous "hockey stick" graph that purports to show a sudden warming of the earth in the last few decades is a fraud. It ignored previous warming periods ... left them off the graph altogether.[*]The infamous Kyoto accords exempt some of the world's biggest CO2 polluters, including China and India.[*]The Kyoto accords can easily be seen as nothing less than an attempt to hamstring the world's dominant capitalist economies.[*]Because many of these scientists who are sounding the global warming scare depend on grant money for their livelihood, and they know the grant money dries up when they stop preaching the global warming sermon.[*]Because global warming "activists" and scientists seek to punish those who have different viewpoints. If you are sure of your science you have no need to shout down or seek to punish those who disagree.[*]What happened to the Medieval Warm Period? In 1996 the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change issued a chart showing climatic change over a period of 1000 years. This graph showed a Medieval warming period in which global temperatures were higher than they are today. In 2001 the IPCC issued another 1000 year graph in which the Medieval warming period was missing. Why?[*]Why has one scientist promoting the cause of man-made global warming been quoted as saying "we have to get rid of the medieval warming period?"[*]Why is the ice cap on the Antarctic getting thicker if the earth is getting warmer?[*]In the United State, the one country with the most accurate temperature measuring and reporting records, temperatures have risen by 0.3 degrees centigrade over the past 100 years. The UN estimate is twice that.[*]There are about 160,000 glaciers around the world. Most have never been visited or measured by man. The great majority of these glaciers are growing, not melting.[*]Side-looking radar interferometry shows that the ise mass in the West Antarctic is growing at a rate of over 26 gigatons a year. This reverses a melting trend that had persisted for the previous 6,000 years.[*]Rising sea levels? The sea levels have been rising since the last ice age ended. That was 12,000 years ago. Estimates are that in that time the sea level has risen by over 300 feet. The rise in our sea levels has been going on long before man started creating anything but natural CO2 emissions.[*]Like Antarctica, the interior of Greenland is gaining ice mass.[*]Over the past 3,000 years there have been five different extended periods when the earth was measurably warmer than it is today.[*]During the last 20 years -- a period of the highest carbon dioxide levels -- global temperatures have actually decreased. That's right ... decreased.[*]Why did a reporter from National Public Radio refuse to interview David Deming, an associate professor at the University of Oklahoma studying global warming, after his testimony to the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee unless Deming would state that global warming was being caused by man?[*]Why are global warming proponents insisting that the matter is settled and that no further scientific research is needed? Why are they afraid of additional information?[*]On July 24, 1974 Time Magazine published an article entitled "Another Ice Age?" Here's the first paragraph:
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"As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age."
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There's much more where that came from. Just know that many of the strongest proponents of this "man-made" global warming stuff are dedicated opponents to capitalism and don't feel all that warm and fuzzy about the United States.
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Wow. Those are some interesting views "Skimask" LOL.
I agree with you.
Global Warming is caused by the Earth's changing phases, and the changing phases of our sun. The "warming" is something that anti-capitalists try to utilize as a political tool. There is really no such thing as "Man made Global Warming"
Wow. Those are some interesting views "Skimask" LOL.
I agree with you.
Global Warming is caused by the Earth's changing phases, and the changing phases of our sun. The "warming" is something that anti-capitalists try to utilize as a political tool. There is really no such thing as "Man made Global Warming"
Take it to the bank!
I'm sure that all of the fossil fuels man has burned don't help, but it ALL can't be blamed on man. It's bullsh1t....
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So I said "Do you love me?" & she said, "No, but that's a really nice ski mask."
I don't doubt that our pathetic little tribe of slightly smarter monkeys has had some limited temporary impact on global weather systems, but to propose that we're the main cause is both arrogant and stupid, and nothing more than junk science at best. Climate changes don't radically alter over a 200 year span without a catastrophic event on the scale of Krakatoa or the Chixalub impact, both of which actually only affected global weather for less than a decade, what we're seeing right now is a small bump on a very long graph. The planet goes from a warm phase to a cool phase roughly every 25,000-50,000 years, what was the weather like 25,000 years ago? That's right, it was colder than a well digger's nads, did we cause that too?
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My take on this subject is our climate science is far from mature and in this context I have little confidence in a concensus of scientists saying "90% certainty global warming is caused by man." It doesn't take a very deep or very long view of science history to come across MAJOR, MAJOR scientific mistakes. For example, measuring the distance from earth to the Andromeda galaxy, before Edwin Hubble made a brilliant analysis of theretofor unavailable observations, was off by such an amount that it had been considered part of our own galaxy but after Hubble must be accounted a separate galaxy and this was the first scientific knowledge of multiple galaxies, we're talking 1924, within the lifetime of my father.
It is not befitting our current level of knowledge to make the wrenching sacrifices implied by determining global warming is human caused.
Excellent post Skimask! I've been telling everybody that were not the biggest cause of global warming. A little yes, but only a very little. Lastreport I read, said that american automobiles only contribute about 6%, thats nothing.
One question though, with all the oil being pumped out of the ground, do you think that the heat from the earths core can now radiate to the surface more. I'm thinking that possibly the oil could act like insulation, I might be way off, but it kinda makes some sense to me.
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Excellent post Skimask! I've been telling everybody that were not the biggest cause of global warming. A little yes, but only a very little. Lastreport I read, said that american automobiles only contribute about 6%, thats nothing.
One question though, with all the oil being pumped out of the ground, do you think that the heat from the earths core can now radiate to the surface more. I'm thinking that possibly the oil could act like insulation, I might be way off, but it kinda makes some sense to me.
Thanks! I feel kind of bad for bashing you in the "Exxon Mobile" thread now.
I have no idea of us taking the oil out of the ground is effecting things. I'm not educated in that area.....
__________________ "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." -Thomas Paine
So I said "Do you love me?" & she said, "No, but that's a really nice ski mask."
Don't feel bad, thats the point of discussions. Sometimes people agree, sometimes they don't.
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I love Christmas lights. They remind me of the people who voted for Obama. They all hang together; half of them don't work, and the ones that do, aren't that bright.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do
not understand, no explanation is possible.
A golf course is a willful and deliberate misuse of a perfectly good rifle range.
SKEPTICAL ABOUT MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING?
