This erks me, someone please tell me where im wrong.

[burniegoeasily]

The other night, my wife was watching a show about a man and women who gave birth to 6 kids. They already had 2, so this makes 8. 8 kids, no problem, but 6 at once is a problem. This women was griping about how hard it was, in my feeble mind I was thinking, "tough kitty, you brought it on yourself by implanting so many embryos." This was not the kicker. The kicker was how this show glorified it. I have been having problems with these shows that have glorified the invetro process and having a litter of kids. Not onlyis the human animal not meant to have a litter of kids, it also hasa adverseeffect on the babies. Just look at how screwed up these kids are. Theyhave to be feed througha feeding tube for many years of their life.One couple have two kids who cant walk due to complications of carrying 6 fetuses at once. Add all this to the yet unseen problems that will most likely manifest later in life. This couple that the show was portraying were lucky. Their kids have shown no adverse effects, yet. This show Im speaking of, went as far as to glorify a plastic surgeon who did surgery to remove all the excess skin from the mother that was created by this women/mans stupid act. My wife thought it was "so nice", I then said, "how do you mean? If this doctor was doing this for anything less than publicity, he would be offering to do plastic surgery for the real needy. Like poor kids with cleft pallets or the likes." This whole thing sickened me, and I could not bring myself to except this as nothing more than stupidity, and on the plastic surgeons half, a opportunity to gain publicity. I know people will say, "invetro is a very expensive process, that's why they implant so many embryos." To that I ask, "What's more expensive, the cost of raising a litter if said embryos gestate? What is more expensive, your selfish needs over the high probability of having multiple defected children?"[/align][/align]Sorry for my rant, now let me know where im wrong. Many times the finefolks at this sight will usally have an insight that helps me understand what I percieve as stupid.[/align]

[Alsatian]

Well, this is a free country and everyone is entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that if you can't make babies naturally without such intrusive technical means, you shouldn't be making babies at all. My wife and I have created a family of three children, according to the ancient methods, and I know that having children provides a unique and special meaning to my life that childless unions cannot have. It is regrettable if a couple that wants to have children cannot have them naturally. But if you can't have them naturally, I think you ought to just accept your lot and live your life as well as you can without making biological children. What about adopting children? I would think that most of the purpose and rewards of parenting can be enjoyed just as completely by adoptive parents as by biological parents. What about sharing your time and money that you otherwise would spend on biological children in helping other children?

Again, just my opinion and its a free country where others are free to have quite different opinions.

[Aught Six]

Unfortunately some people have an ideal of the perfect family and household, and when nature doesn't see things their way, they find some doctor who will gratify them, naturally in exchange for tens of thousands of dollars, naturally.

We're well past the point of science providing things that nature didn't intend, but it's too late to stop now short of disaster. A lot of people are used to getting what they want, and they won't take "no" for an answer. A lot of entrepreneurs won't either.

Let's hope that their sci-fi genetics put an end to such nonsense in a few generations. Not holding my breath, though. I don't see us living in Brave New World, but we'll get pretty close one of these days.

[Lanse couche couche]

If you've already had 2 kids and suddenly the boys stop swimming upstream, or whatever, its time to adopt. When you monkey with mother nature, you sometimes end up with flipper babies

[burniegoeasily]

Alsatian
My wife and I were as you speak. My wife could not carry a child. We just bit the bullet and adopted. We adopted two great little girls. i do not feel short changed by any means. I feel as blessed, if not more, than i would if we had had them ourself.

[Aught Six]

All day I've been thinking about E&J brandy because of your use of the word "erk". Sometimes you just can't get that Erk & Jerk out of your head...it haunts you incessantly.

Mrs. Six and I are thinking about adopting. She's getting to that motherly period of life, but I have absolutely no desire to have children for a handful of reasons. She holds a few of them herself, but we love being around children, and we certainly don't like the thought of kids growing up without parents. At this point it's let's work, work, work, get some more money coming in, and get away of the encroaching sprawl. We'll have to see how it goes later on down the road.

Oh, she doesn't want to work with kids, sofiguring out how to make enough money to support the entire household is the real issue. My mom didn't work until after my sister was born, and I absolutely hatedbeingleft in a daycare all day during summer break (3rd or 4thgrade). Very stupid old women and absolutely no educationalopportunities. And ADD kids. Gawd...

It's not the 50's, but we can role play...

[boysda]

ORIGINAL: Aught Six

Unfortunately some people have an ideal of the perfect family and household, and when nature doesn't see things their way, they find some doctor who will gratify them, naturally in exchange for tens of thousands of dollars, naturally.

does anyone know if in vitrio is covered by most insurances? cause then i'd be really steamed...

[burniegoeasily]

boysda
Im not sure



Aught
If more people were like you, we might not have the child problems we do. People should not have kids till they are ready. Its not fair to the kid or the parents.

[Robb92]

I don't agree with it, my brother and his wife tried it once and it didn't but they finially had one the normal way, their insurance only paid for the consultation it didn't pay for the procedure, they had to pay out of pocket.

I think if you try once and it doesn't work you should think about adopting. I would rather take a child that needed the comforts of a loving home then spend the rest of my life with regret because we couldn't have kids.

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