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Old 01-25-2007, 08:26 AM   #1
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Ask the House Democrats how wrong Bush is not to care about global warming. Alaska is virtually melting away with warm weather!!! The uninformed are so easy to wooo!
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the earth is warming ......... big deal

the earth has ALWAYS been changing (remember science teaching you about the ice ages ? )

don't get in a tiffy about it all
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:02 AM   #3
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Well, those blowing their trumpets to warn of us the impending climate change are right about one thing--we're all going to die.

Some day...
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I GAURANTEE the climate will change, it always has, it always will

What causes it is THEORY - not fact. Hard to put a plan together to battle something that isn't even known to be a fact huh ?
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:14 AM   #5
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There's really not much we can do anyway, even with a plan. Greenhouse gasses are contributing factors to global warming, but not determining factors. Humans can only control the enviroment so much before Mother Nature finally takes a dump on us.
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All rise....the church of Global Warming is back in session. In today's sermon, we learn that 2006 was supposedly the warmest year out of the past 112. What about before 112 years ago? Why such an odd number? And if global warming is so bad, are liberals willing to park their cars and do their part? We're waiting. Here are some basic questions the global warming crowd can never answer:
[ul][*]How do they reconcile the fact that temperature records only go back so far? Surely there were warmer winters 300 years ago. Why only measure the temperature in the last 112 years? The answer is because it fits their anti-capitalist agenda.[*]Why do they hijack normally occurring events and make them into arguments for global warming? We've always had occasional warm winters, hurricanes and the like. It's not global warming...it's nature.[*]Will they admit signing the Kyoto agreement will do nothing to clean the air? Even countries that have signed it can't adhere to it. Why should we?[*]And one last one...if global warming is caused by greenhouse gases, then will they please stop using electricity (generated in many cases by burning coal,) stop driving their cars and park their private jets? Oh...we can't expect them to practice what they preach, can we?[/ul]
The entire global warming movement is a scientific fraud...and yet there is the mainstream media...letting them slide. Figures.
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It looks like global warming is quickly moving to front and center as the big story right now. Magazines, newspapers, movies, television ... all full of specials on the grave threat to all mankind posed by the horrible global warming that is consuming our planet even as we speak. I read one column over the weekend warning the Wall Street financiers of New York City to become really involved in the global warming menace because, after all, their precious Wall Street will be under water within 40 years if they don't.

Read as much as the available material asyou can getyour hands on, and make sure thatyou get information from scientists who actually work in this field and who do not work for the government.

Here are just a few little factoids for you to play around with, factoids that cause me to doubt that whatever global warming we're experiencing can be blamed on the actions of man.
[ol][*]The sun is hotter. Period. This fact cannot be denied. The sun is going through a lengthy period of increased activity that causes it to radiate more heat into space. Is it really that hard to believe that a hotter sun would lead to a hotter earth?[*]Our polar ice caps are melting? Sure looks like it. But .. the polar ice caps on Mars are melting also. So, are we to believe that this is caused by man on the Earth but by the hotter sun on Mars?[*]And while we're talking about ice caps melting, it's worth noting that the ice pack in the heart of Antarctica is actually getting thicker![*]Scientific data clearly shows that the Earth has undergone warming and cooling cycles for millions of years. Why, all of a sudden, does a warming cycle just have to be caused by the actions of man?[*]Scientists who work on government grants are more inclined to blame global warming on the actions of man than are scientists who do not depend on continued government (political) funding.[*]And just how much warmer has our atmosphere become in the last 100 years? One degree. That's it. Just one degree.[*]Many of the people who are so involved in promoting the man-made global warming theme are people who are also involved in anti-capitalist movements. So, what is their true goal? Do they want to solve the global warming problem, or do they want to cripple the capitalist systems they so hate?[*]The U.S. Senate snubbed the Kyoto treaty by a vote of 99-0. This was during the Clinton years! What did these 99 senators know about the Kyoto Accords that we don't know?[*]Speaking of the Kyoto accords, they would severely impact the U.S. economy, but would leave China absolutely alone! China has one of the fastest growing economies in the world. Since a huge number of Kyoto proponents can also be called anti-American, could this cause you to wonder what the true goal of Kyoto is?[*]And just how many years ago was it that these very same scientists were warming us about the earth getting cooler? [/ol]
That's just a start. More to come later. They want to discuss global warming? Fine! No holds barred.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:43 PM   #8
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I'm largely in agreement with you, Sureisaniceskimask. With all the discord and inability of nations to cooperate in seemingly no-brainer activities (missile vehicle technolgoy to Iran? seems like a no-brainer that this should be avoided), what are the prospects that nations will cooperate in an activity which requires them to sacrifice and compel their citizens to accept a lower standard of living for a dubious benefit accrueing only far in the future? Just about zero. And nations which do abide by their greenhouse gas emissions would essentially be carrying cheating nations on their backs.

Our climate science is too immature to identify what contribution, if any, human behavior has in the observed global warming. I accept that global warming is observed -- though this acceptance may be mistaken!!! -- because there seems to be consistency in pronouncing that (1) glaciers are retreating noticeably in Europe, (2) glaciers are retreating noticeably in US, (3) northern polar ice cap is breaking up. Hard to see how something which is directly observable and measurable would be falsified, but this is possible. But having granted global warming is occuring, this is far from the conclusion that this global warming must be caused by human behavior. As is pointed out, earth has gone through material climate transients in the past, apparently not the result of human behavior. The 500 year long "Little Ice Age" and the 200 year long "Medieval Warming Period" come immediately to mind. In the absence of solid science (and immature science is not solid science) it just does not make sense to me to lash ourselves to the white whale of CO2 emission reduction.

There is a palpable amount of hysteria involved in this. Ask yourself, why are only negative effects of global warming recited? Can't some good effects result from Global Warming? Maybe some previously marginal land will become abundantly fruitful land that helps to feed the growing masses of people in China and India? Maybe land currently permanently condemned to deep freeze conditions can become pleasantly habitable? Maybe areas that can't support viticulture will produce glorious affordable wines to cheer our dinners? Hysteria is NOT a rational mood in which to make level headed, wise decisions.
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Yea, I hear you. Global warming is nothing more but a changing phase of the Earth. The liberal media blows this crap out of proportion, and scientists are actually receiving Govt funding to lie and say that the greenhouse gasses are whats causing the "warming", If a scientist wants to release a report saying that global warming is a myth, and its just nature...they get shut up faster than you can say wrongful termination


All of you whining liberal peices of uneducated s--- need to wake the hell up and stop makin s--- up!!!!![:@][:'(]


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All rise....the church of Global Warming is back in session. In today's sermon, we learn that 2006 was supposedly the warmest year out of the past 112. What about before 112 years ago? Why such an odd number? And if global warming is so bad, are liberals willing to park their cars and do their part? We're waiting. Here are some basic questions the global warming crowd can never answer:
[ul][*]How do they reconcile the fact that temperature records only go back so far? Surely there were warmer winters 300 years ago. Why only measure the temperature in the last 112 years? The answer is because it fits their anti-capitalist agenda.[*]Why do they hijack normally occurring events and make them into arguments for global warming? We've always had occasional warm winters, hurricanes and the like. It's not global warming...it's nature.[*]Will they admit signing the Kyoto agreement will do nothing to clean the air? Even countries that have signed it can't adhere to it. Why should we?[*]And one last one...if global warming is caused by greenhouse gases, then will they please stop using electricity (generated in many cases by burning coal,) stop driving their cars and park their private jets? Oh...we can't expect them to practice what they preach, can we?[/ul]



The entire global warming movement is a scientific fraud...and yet there is the mainstream media...letting them slide. Figures.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe the technology to measure temperature globally with sufficient accuracy and precision to detect statistically significant variations in temperature has only been around for 112 years?

I think it is pretty easy to reconcile why temperature records only go back so far when you consider that the technology for measuring temperature only goes back so far.

You believe scientists are purpetrating a fraud with their explanation for the observed fact of increased average global temperature over the last century. What is your explanation for the documented increase in temperature? This should be interesting from someone who's occupation is "drinkin scotch".

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