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Old 01-24-2007, 09:07 AM   #1
 
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:10 AM   #2
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Default RE: Things I liked in the SUA,, OK Mr. Prez, lets get'r done!

Darn Iff, you must have gotten a goods nights sleep and be in a good mood this morning. No calls for impeachment based on the content of his speech[8D]
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:35 AM   #3
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He started me off in a mood. He opened with a push to keep NCLB. Funny how this effects me, yet i have yet to see any help from the Feds. First off, Feds are not suppose to mandate any educational reforms, its suppose to be a state right. So if the Feds are going to insist on tieing my hands, they should at least buy the rope. [:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:55 AM   #4
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1) " Tonight, I propose two new initiatives to help more Americans afford their own insurance. First, I propose a standard tax deduction for health insurance that will be like the standard tax deduction for dependents. Families with health insurance will pay no income or payroll taxes on $15,000 of their income. Single Americans with health insurance will pay no income or payroll taxes on $7,500 of their income. With this reform, more than 100 million men, women, and children who are now covered by employer-provided insurance will benefit from lower tax bills.
At the same time, this reform will level the playing field for those who do not get health insurance through their job. For Americans who now purchase health insurance on their own, my proposal would mean a substantial tax savings "” $4,500 for a family of four making $60,000 a year. And for the millions of other Americans who have no health insurance at all, this deduction would help put a basic private health insurance plan within their reach. Changing the tax code is a vital and necessary step to making health care affordable for more Americans."

My favorite part,,,, maybe,,,,,. I would support that.,,, If employers don't cut their coverage because "you can afford your own now". If they do, then its no real benefit since individuals can't get as good of coverage as big groups through an employer for the same money. It then becomes a shell game for the dupes,,, and I won't play.
I'm only responding to this one, because I'm busy today... I'd really need to see more details before supporting it. Generally speaking though, I'm in favor of most any deductions that mean less tax dollars out of my pocket. I want to take exception, though, to your statement that "individuals can't get as good of coverage as big groups through an employer for the same money." I've got group coverage at work. The firm pays for mine. I have to pay for my wife's and son's. My son's coverage was $311 per month. I found comparable coverage for him privately for $59 per month. Higher deductible, but, more than made up for it by the lower premium. The only real advantage to group coverage is that the insurance companies aren't allowed to turn you down due to existing medical issues.

As far as employers saying "you can afford your own now, so you're on your own..." I think that would be fine,if theyalso increase base salary by at least a good percentage of what they save by no longer paying the premiums. I think this would be fair, since that health coverage is currently a part of the employee's compensation package

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That political capital he was talking after the last election sure got spent up fast. [:'(]
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So nobody liked anything from the SUA except for me?

"I'm a uniter not a divider."

"I'm the decider."
Now Iff, you know that speech brought tears to ma eyes...and I ain't even 'mercian...
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