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What do you call the insurgence in Iraq?
Just a thought, I keep hearing, "Iraq war is not part of the war on terrorism". yet we are fighting insurgence (not refering to sectarian, domestic violence, but the insurgence at the begining of the war Abu Musab Al Zarqawi's crowed).Most of all the insurgence belong to one of the extreme Muslim terrorist organization. If we are not fighting terrorist over there, where would they be. Now I know most of you will say, They became terrorist when we went to war with Iraq. I just find it hard to believe they could recruit that many members, arm them, and generate funds to support their efforts in that time. They were getting prepared for something, Iraq just gave an imediate cause. So were and when would we meet them in the future? (I dont think they were organizing before handas a social group). Like I said, just a thought. I have mixed feelings about Iraq. I for one would love to see us come home. Where as I also listen to my Cousin, who is an officer there. He supports the effort 100%. What are your thoughts?
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RE: What do you call the insurgence in Iraq?
"Most of all the insurgence belong to one of the extreme Muslim terrorist organization."
That is not a correct statement, there are at least threemajor muslim groups in the Iraq, the Sunnis and the ****e and the Kurds, the Sunnis and the ****es are the ones fighting back and forth. The only stable group is the Kurds, mainly because htey keep to themselves inthe northern part of Iraq.
Were they there before the invasion?Yes they were.I think theres two main causes that have inspired the insurgency over there.Us being there and the 3 different factions that aretrying to gain a littlepower.Theyve been killing each other forever over there, its nothing new.Thats why the majority of the attacks taking place are targeting each other and not our forces.Read the head lines, every day its 14 Iraqi civilians killed in car bombing or something to that effect.If they all banded together to go after us our body count would be much higher then 3000, but theyre content with killing each other off.Realistically we could probably let em have at each other and it would never become a danger to us.
Then theres the ones that are targeting our forces, some are fanatical wack jobs, extremists, and outside elements.But weve created another type as well with our presence and the daily violence over there.Look at it from thier point of view.
If someone invaded your country on false pretenses, and it continued to spiral out of control, you watch your nieghbors and family members killed, soldiers moving through your nieghborhood, people being arrested and detained, how long would it be before you said enoughs enough and took up arms against them?Somewhere you would reach a breaking point and lash out.Being the good guys depends entirely on which side of the fence your on.They dont just have to contend with us now, weve created an enviroment where the other rival factions are free to blow things up at random and theres a lot of resentment about that, there would have to be.
You've got various Sunni factions (Ba'ath, al Qaeda, etc.), various Shi'ites (Mahdi Army, elements and agents of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, etc.), and miscellaneous thugs and murderers (organized crime). They all murder, and for that, they all deserve to be killed or imprisoned.
We're already in Iraq, so it doesn't matter anymore whether we should've attacked or not. The facts are that there are many people attacking us now, and even if we leave, many of them will follow us elsewhere. Islamic terrorism is a mindset, not something that just springs up out of nowhere. Whether insurgents are Iraqi or not, they're still terrorists. We're there...let's kill them.