I keep seeing people asking what thier solution to getting out of Iraq is every time someone criticizes whats going on over there.And I may have found an answer.
The signs of the militias are everywhere at the Sholeh police station.
Posters celebrating Moqtada al-Sadr, head of the Mahdi Army militia, dot the building's walls. The police chief sometimes remarks that Shiite militias should wipe out all Sunnis. Visitors to this violent neighborhood in the Iraqi capital whisper that nearly all the police officers have split loyalties.
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How can we expect ordinary Iraqis to trust the police when we don't even trust them not to kill our own men?" asked Capt. Alexander Shaw, head of the police transition team of the 372nd Military Police Battalion, a Washington-based unit charged with overseeing training of all Iraqi police in western Baghdad. "To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure we're ever going to have police here that are free of the militia influence."
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"None of the Iraqi police are working to make their country better," said Brig. Gen. Salah al-Ani, chief of police for the western half of Baghdad. "They're working for the militias or to put money in their pocket."
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American soldiers said that although they gather evidence of police ties to the militias and present it to Iraqi officials, no one has ever been criminally charged or even lost their jobs
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"I wouldn't let half of them feed my dog," 1st Lt. Floyd D. Estes Jr., a former head of the police transition team, said of the Iraqi police. "I just don't trust them."
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The difficulty of eliminating corruption and militias from the Iraqi police forces can be exasperating for the American soldiers who risk their lives day after day to train them. "We can keep getting in our Humvees every day, but nothing is going to work unless the politicians do their job and move against the militias," Moore said.
Sitting in the battalion's war room with four other members of his team, Moore estimated it would take 30 to 40 years before the Iraqi police could function properly, perhaps longer if the militia infiltration and corruption continue to increase. His colleagues nodded.
"It's very, very slow-moving," Estes said.
"No," said Sgt. 1st Class William T. King Jr., another member of the team. "It's moving in reverse."
Theres much more, talks of murders, stealing vehicles, ambushing journalists.And these are the guys were training not the insurgents.If corruption and greed are that rampant, and the good forces are scared to do thier jobs, the elected Iraqi politicians are unwilling to take any measures I can only reach one conclusion.Nothing we can do is going to change the course of events in that country.This has nothing to do with our country, our government, or our president.If their not willing, or unable, to take action against thier own corrupt forces we mightvery well betraining the next wave of the insurgency.If somethings going to change its going to have to come from the people of Iraq, it does us no good to police the area when the government over there takes no action against the people who are supposed to be helping rebuild the country.How are we going to help anyone whos unwilling to help themselves?
time to take these militants out, find the thugs and criminals, find the extremist agitators and arrest them...one by one if need be...put them in a big hole in the ground and cover em over with the sand they love so much.....
time to take these militants out, find the thugs and criminals, find the extremist agitators and arrest them...one by one if need be...put them in a big hole in the ground and cover em over with the sand they love so much.....
Canuck, the Iraqi Govt isnt even willing to fire them from the police force when theres evidence of corruption, much less track them down one by one and deal with them in a serious manner.If thier own govt wont deal with the seriously what the hell are we supposed to do with them?This is becoming more like a babysitting service then a war.
time to take these militants out, find the thugs and criminals, find the extremist agitators and arrest them...one by one if need be...put them in a big hole in the ground and cover em over with the sand they love so much.....
Canuck, the Iraqi Govt isnt even willing to fire them from the police force when theres evidence of corruption, much less track them down one by one and deal with them in a serious manner.If thier own govt wont deal with the seriously what the hell are we supposed to do with them?This is becoming more like a babysitting service then a war.
so it seems, however this is the growing pains, the country will adjust, once they get a grip on the security, it's game over. right?
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