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Old 10-26-2006, 07:13 AM   #1
 
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:03 AM   #2
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I think outside of LEO writing tickets for traffic violations, they should be presumed to be ethical until proven otherwise.

But when it comes to writing tickets, I see 90% of it as a way to raise local funds and not an effort to increase public safety. THAT is offensive.
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:09 AM   #4
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NC, are you referring to state patrol, sheriff, city police or Wildlife Officers?

As I understand it, Wildlife ticket fines go directly to the schools in the county they are written, the Wildlife Commission gets none of those funds.

As for the others, I don't know where the money goes - and it could be a temptation to line pockets of cronie politicians if corruption is present, depending on the specific local circumstances of course.

We just lost our best Wildlife Officer in years to a promotion *damn! [X(]

He won 2nd in the nation in the NWTF Wildlife Officer competition. Then he put in for a job that was a big step up and he got it,,,,

I wrote him a very positive letter of professional recomendation (at his request)Â*as part of his portfolio that he used in the competition, so I guess I'm partly to blame for the loss of such a good officer in the field,[X(]

Next time we get a good, ethical officer and he asks me for a letter, I'm gonna slam him in the letterÂ*so we can keep him,,,
Iff: I was referring to local police. I read an article a few weeks ago about the Charlotte Police Department holding contests to see which officer could write the most tickets. The winner(s) got Blockbuster certificates or some such. Grrr.
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:17 AM   #5
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Sorry but I got the gift wrong. They got $10 gift certificates to Dicks Sporting Goods.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/stori...s.7a62bf2.html
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Why is a ticket-writing campaign unethical? I see it as an incentive for troopers to catch and punish people breaking the law. Don't speed and you have nothing to worry about. So what if they're using citation-writing campaigns to fund the local police department? Don't speed and you have nothing to worry about.

As far as I'm concerned, if the speed limit is clearly posted and a driver violates it, let him pay the consequences.

Now I have heard of allegations of fund-raising campaigns using some very shady ticketing practices. Was it in Milwaukee where it was discovered a few years ago that officers were writing $10 parking tickets for cars that were legally parked? Because they knew that the person would mail in the $10 fine rather than actually go to the trouble of missing a day's work to go to court and contest the fine? That's unethical.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:15 AM   #8
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Why is a ticket-writing campaign unethical? I see it as an incentive for troopers to catch and punish people breaking the law. Don't speed and you have nothing to worry about. So what if they're using citation-writing campaigns to fund the local police department? Don't speed and you have nothing to worry about.

As far as I'm concerned, if the speed limit is clearly posted and a driver violates it, let him pay the consequences.

Now I have heard of allegations of fund-raising campaigns using some very shady ticketing practices. Was it in Milwaukee where it was discovered a few years ago that officers were writing $10 parking tickets for cars that were legally parked? Because they knew that the person would mail in the $10 fine rather than actually go to the trouble of missing a day's work to go to court and contest the fine? That's unethical.
Come on Ben.

Technically, it isn't "unethical." Unless there are speed traps. Drive on Route 58 in Virginia from South Hill through Emporia and you'll go through a number of them.

Cops make judgement calls all day long. Nailing everyone going 5 miles over, to make money for the local government may not be illegal but it certainly doesn't endear them to the community where they are working.

I used to give money to the Friends of the Police or whatever in Hampton. When my wife got a ticket at a road block inspection because a reverse light was out, I told them to f off. They can kiss my as*. I know I sound hostile but I think there are some things that clearly need flexibility. Most law abiding citizens only have contact with the police during traffic violations. When cops write tickets as part of a contest it just pisses people off.


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Old 10-26-2006, 11:19 AM   #9
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I re-read my response to Ben and it may sound like I think that since we gave money to the local police, we shouldn't get any tickets. I'm not saying that. I mean that if you want to cultivate a symbiotic relationship with the community, you need to practice flexibility.
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