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Old 10-19-2006, 02:35 PM   #1
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Default Socrates was a very wise man



Keep this philosophy in mind the next time you hear or are about to repeat a rumor.
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In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC), Socrates was widely lauded for his wisdom. One day the great philosopher came upon an acquaintance, who ran up to him excitedly and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about one of your students...?"
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"Wait a moment," Socrates replied. "Before you tell me, I'd like you to pass a little test.
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It's called the Test of Three."
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"Test of Three?"
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"That's correct," Socrates continued. "Before you talk to me about my student let's take a moment to test what you're going to say. The first test is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true?"
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"No," the man replied, "actually I just heard about it."
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"All right," said Socrates. "So you don't really know if it's true or not. Now let's try the second test, the test of Goodness. Is what you are about to tell me about my student something good?"
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"No, on the contrary..."
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"So," Socrates continued, "you want to tell me something bad about him
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even though you're not certain it's true?"
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The man shrugged, a little embarrassed. Socrates continued, "You may still pass though because there is a third test - the filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about my student going to be useful to me?"
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"No, not really..."
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"Well," concluded Socrates, "if what you want to tell me is neither True nor Good nor even Useful, why tell it to me at all?"
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The man was defeated and ashamed and said no more. This is the reason Socrates was a great philosopher and held in such high esteem.
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It also explains why Socrates never found out that Plato was having an affair with his wife.



I know this is not true, because Plato liked little boys. Its still funny.
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:42 PM   #2
 
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That's pretty good. [8D]
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:02 PM   #3
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Boy oh boy, the world would sure be a different place if more people would observe the test of three.
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Old 10-19-2006, 09:14 PM   #4
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A little different I believe it's from Hinduism.

The first golden gate is, "Is It True." For most people this is the only gate they let their words pass through. Who has not heard someone retort "well it is true isn"t it" right after they had slaughtered someone with a few poison words. This is poor diplomacy at best and is often used as a cloke of maliciousness. That something is true is not a mandate for you to repeat it to the hurt of others. It is no secret that truth without love is cruelty and love without truth is sentimentality. Many truths are weapons in the hands of those whose motive it is to hurt. Truth then is only gate number one, so lets move on.
The second golden gate is, "Is It Needful." Regardless of the veracity of what you are about to say, do you really need to say it? Here is where a lot of retort will fail to report. Most of the nasty things repeated would have no sting at all if they attempted to pass through gate two. Only people of character will have a gate number two. People who care about others, who understand the weight of words and who seek love are those who have a second golden gate. The power of this golden gate comes from the golden rule. If we disregard someone else"s peace, privacy or dignity who will guard our own?
The third golden gate is, "Is It Kind." This is the gate that causes a person to honestly look at their own motives for saying something. True things can be spoken to hurt. Un-needful things are spoken daily by the careless and indifferent. Words spoken without love are the worst of the bunch because they have a lingering and damaging effect whose poison goes on and on. They are the great enemy of mankind. The are the precursors to every evil result from hatred to murder. Most words that have made it through the first two gates will fail at gate number three
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Old 10-19-2006, 09:22 PM   #5
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I like that. Good insight.

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truth without love is cruelty and love without truth is sentimentality.
Very true.
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I know this is not true, because Plato liked little boys.

Is this written in the bible??How can you prove this of what you just wrote?

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Plato was one of them greek thinker/talker dudes....
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I know this is not true, because Plato liked little boys.

Is this written in the bible??How can you prove this of what you just wrote?
Lol. Actually he keep young boys to "lay with". What lay with is to speculation, but was a normal practice with the ancient greeks. All i can think is, "ewwwwwww".
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On the up side, if you were an adolescent boy and some dude molested you, they usually paid you a chicken or something.

I'm not sure how well Catholic priests pay.[&:]
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Hence the phrase, "you need some Chicken Soup" ? or "Chicken ala King" ?
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