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Old 10-11-2006, 12:08 PM   #1
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Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:45 PM   #2
 
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4. You have right to feel safe in your home.Gives some sense of privacy.For what it's worth nowadays.

5. You don't have to incriminate yourself. I think it's used way too much.

6. Lawyers shouldn't be able to drag out trials unnecessarily.

(Quick version of my thoughts) My .02c
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:48 PM   #3
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Do you feel the Patriot Act infringes on these rights?
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:35 PM   #4
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Only if you are a criminal or terrorist. I have personally not noticed or suffered any ill effects from it. I feel however that it has already foiled a lot of terrorist plots.
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:40 PM   #5
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Many people would say that don't care about the second too, I feel we need to keep all our rights in tact.
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Charlie, can you please tell us how the Patriot act infringes on these rights?
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Do you feel the Patriot Act infringes on these rights?
Honestly, I don't know much about it. [&:] Could you help me out a little?
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:19 AM   #8
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Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The Patriot act allows the police to come into your house with out your knowledge.


Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

The PA allows the goverment to hold you without a indictment or a grand jury.

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense


They can hold you as long as they want you don't get a lawyer and they don't have to tell anyone they have you.
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Name one natural American citizen whose rights, under these amendments, have been infringed upon in the light that you put it. The one thing I do know is that the 'watchdogs' (oversight) is doing what it is supposed to do. BTW, that blacked out Suburban parked across the street from your house ain't the Good Humor Man!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:11 PM   #10
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The one thing I do know is that the 'watchdogs' (oversight) is doing what it is supposed to do.
How do you know that???






It's the small incremental steps that we have to worry about like the PA, but of course, we've been down this road of discussion beforeand many simply don't want to listen. Whether any of us personally have had any experience with the ramifications of these encroaching restrictions on liberty is IRRELEVANT. What is relevant is what the government (either now or, more likely, in the future) has the capacity to do to anyone it chooses. DUH.


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