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Old 08-24-2006, 06:40 PM   #1
 
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Three Cheers For Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.
Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".

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Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

AMERICA and Canada ..... ARE YOU LISTENING?

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IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on
Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.

However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to
Australia.

However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.

This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.

This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, ***anese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!

Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push but a fact because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, Because God is part of our culture.

We will accept your beliefs and will not question why, all we ask is that you accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.

If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means keep your culture but do not force it on others.

This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, "THE RIGHT TO LEAVE".

If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to thecomplainers, lets all try, please.

PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE, PERHAPS WE CAN CREATE A GROUND SWELL AND SEND OURPOLITICIANS THE MESSAGE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF US BELIEVE AS THE AUSSIES DO
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:43 PM   #2
 
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AMEN!!!!! good post!!! America: Love it Or LEAVE IT


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Old 08-24-2006, 06:47 PM   #3
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Sounds peachy.

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http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/con...5/s1445094.htm
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Old 08-24-2006, 07:59 PM   #4
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Alex, I have mixed feelings on things like this.

Do we agree that we will "Defend to the Death" a person"s right to say\feel that a country should be this or that?

Or

Do we outlaw Communism? Both Communism and Sharia are at odds with what we stand for""but"..we agree that we will defend to the death a person"s choice: to desire Communism or Islamic Sharia law.

For me, it comes down to methods used to achieve the ends (Both theirs and ours).

If a person wants to work with in the system, to mold into a desired product, who am I to try and stop
them from trying to work with in the system?

The question then becomes, how do we separate the wheat (Those determined to work with-in the system.) from the chaff (Those who are willing to work outside the system)?

This becomes a very important decision because it can mean the difference between life and death for many people.

The recent events in Canada should have brought that message home to everyone.

Do we have the tools to do the job?

I am not taking about a sledge hammer; I am talking about having the peening hammers.

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Old 08-24-2006, 08:10 PM   #5
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VC1111, have you seen this:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp

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Old 08-24-2006, 09:38 PM   #6
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It must be true since Snopes says so. I applaud that government for taking the initiative to bring balance back.
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Alex, I have mixed feelings on things like this.

Do we agree that we will "Defend to the Death" a person"s right to say\feel that a country should be this or that?

Or

Do we outlaw Communism? Both Communism and Sharia are at odds with what we stand for""but"..we agree that we will defend to the death a person"s choice: to desire Communism or Islamic Sharia law.


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I vote for allowing people to follow any religion or ideology they want as long as it stays their personal preference. The problem arises when they solicit others to follow to the detriment of the country. If someone hates the USA but keeps it to them selves then I don't have an issue with it. If they hate it so much they should move.


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I will defend your Right to believe in whatever you want , as long as it doesn't interfeer with my right to believe different.
Now when your right is imposed over mine then , either you go or I go, and I ain't going

Comunism and Islam will take your life, so choose.
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I will defend your Right to believe in whatever you want , as long as it doesn't interfeer with my right to believe different.
Now when your right is imposed over mine then , either you go or I go, and I ain't going
Alex nails it right here. One may believe & do as one wishes, however one freedoms shall not infringe on another's freedoms. Radical Islam, if carried out, infringes on the freedom of others. If they cannot live with other's freedoms, they must go somewhere else!
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:16 AM   #10
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Sounds like the Aussies got it together along with some of the Aussie Muslim leaders who:
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In a nutshell the radicals must go and the mainstream Muslim leaders agree!
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