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Old 08-21-2006, 02:22 PM   #1
 
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Default Bush says: "œIraq Had "˜Nothing"™ To Do With 9/11"³

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QUESTION: A lot of the consequences you mentioned for pulling out seem like maybe they never would have been there if we hadn"™t gone in. How do you square all of that?
BUSH: I square it because imagine a world in which you had Saddam Hussein, who had the capacity to make a weapon of mass destruction, who was paying suiciders to kill innocent life, who had relations with Zarqawi.
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You know, I"™ve heard this theory about, you know, everything was just fine until we arrived [in Iraq] and "” you know, the stir-up-the-hornet"™s- nest theory. It just doesn"™t hold water, as far as I"™m concerned.
The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East. They were "¦
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QUESTION: What did Iraqi have to do with that?
BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?
QUESTION: The attacks upon the World Trade Center.
BUSH: Nothing. . . . .Except for it"™s part of "” and nobody"™s ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a "” Iraq "” the lesson of September the 11th is: Take threats before they fully materialize,

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I guess he's the slap them first kinda of christian...
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he's the only guy in washington who wants to fight terroristsin Washington anymore it looks like...all the more power to em


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Old 08-21-2006, 03:12 PM   #4
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CT, right now, without resorting to bashing Bush haters, spewing vauge generalities like"Hes the only one that wants to fight terrorism anymore" or telling me about someone you talked tos views on Iraq give me one verifiable way that Iraq was a threat to the united states at the point we invaded them.i like you, and Im not picking on you, but the entire time youve been in here ive never seen you cite one source or make a valid point you could back up with evidence.Im not saying your wrong in your opinions, everyonres entitled, but if your going to join on a debate you should be better prepared to debate then saying the same thing over and over again.Again, im not singling you out as a personal attack, it just bugs me that you keep doing this over and over again, escpecially after we just went through this not to long ago.
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Im trying to resort from using "redneck catch phrases" . But in any case. In my opinion, Iraq was a threat to the United States at the time that we invaded because they harbored terrorists. Also, there were 500 artillery (sp) filled with serine gas that were missing from Saddam's weapons when the United Nations did their weapons check, about a month and a half ago there were some people that were exposed to serine gas and had to go into treatment for exposure to hazardous materials, they think these two were some of the 500 that are still missing. Also, at one time, Iraq DID have WMDs, and we had sattelitephotos trucks movingthem, so we had reason to beleive that they had more.And, we found a RussianMIG all rapped up in bubble rap and all that burried in the sand, and it was exposed after a big sandstorm, it was buried to hide from us. But above all, what I think was the biggest problem was with Iraq was that they were harboring terrorists. Is that what you were looking for? thank you for respecting my opinions, I respect yours


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Old 08-21-2006, 04:01 PM   #6
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Interesting how Bush's quotes are censored and not complete. I wonder what else he had to say that wasn't convenient for this cut and paste. Hmmmmmm......
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Old 08-21-2006, 04:28 PM   #7
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Im trying to resort from using "redneck catch phrases" . But in any case. In my opinion, Iraq was a threat to the United States at the time that we invaded because they harbored terrorists. Also, there were 500 artillery (sp) filled with serine gas that were missing from Saddam's weapons when the United Nations did their weapons check, about a month and a half ago there were some people that were exposed to serine gas and had to go into treatment for exposure to hazardous materials, they think these two were some of the 500 that are still missing. Also, at one time, Iraq DID have WMDs, and we had sattelitephotos trucks movingthem, so we had reason to beleive that they had more.And, we found a RussianMIG all rapped up in bubble rap and all that burried in the sand, and it was exposed after a big sandstorm, it was buried to hide from us. But above all, what I think was the biggest problem was with Iraq was that they were harboring terrorists. Is that what you were looking for? thank you for respecting my opinions, I respect yours
very well said, thank you
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:28 PM   #8
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Iraq had virtually nothing to do with 9/11, and most likely nothing directly. However, the international waragainst terrorist organizations goes well beyond the 9/11 attacks. There are more Islamic whackos trying to kill us than just those 19 hijackers and whatever al Qaeda hold-outs remain in Afghanistan. International terrorism is just that, and we've opened a front right in the middle of it. It's a lot easier to hunt, surveil, andkill these people in their back yards than it is from the Pentagon. If we didn't draw al Qaeda, et al, into Iraq, where in world were we supposed to fight them next?

Not to mention that Hussein had dealings with such terrorists (such as Abu Abbas, co-founder and leader of the Palestinian Liberation Front and hijacker of the Achille Lauro, whom we captured in Baghdad in 2003 after he had been given refuge by Hussein for several years), regularly donated money and material aid toterrorists (notably Palestinian suicide bombers, their leaders, and families), and was planning to rebuild his nuclear and biological weapons program after playing hide-and-seek with the UN (or outright refusing to comply with their orders) for a decade.

Of course, anyone who has gone mad with hatred for Bush will simply refuse to accept these facts, but hey, you can't makecrazy men sanesimply by speaking the truth to them in a clear and concise manner. Still, I try....
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International terrorism is just that, and we've opened a front right in the middle of it. It's a lot easier to hunt, surveil, andkill these people in their back yards than it is from the Pentagon. If we didn't draw al Qaeda, et al, into Iraq, where in world were we supposed to fight them next?
I love the rationalization of our failure to validate the invasion of another nation...in the Middle East yet. Its as if every week there's a new twist on the hows and whys of our invasion of that nation.

WMD's...anyone remember that one? That was the reason, plain and simple. Six, no one ever mentioned "opening a front" "in their back yards" prior to the invasion of that nation. There was not a single, solitary word spoken to that effect prior to our marching on that nation...ever.

And you go on to call that baloney "speaking the truth to them in a clear and concise manner?"

Lol, I can't wait to hear what someone will come up with next week.

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Not to mention that Hussein had dealings with such terrorists...
Well by that reasoning others should march on us. We had dealing with Hussein. Want me to dig up the picture of Rumsfeld shaking his hand?

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If we didn't draw al Qaeda, et al, into Iraq, where in world were we supposed to fight them next?
I just can't believe that anyone could write this stuff with a straight face. You have got to be kidding.



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Old 08-21-2006, 07:17 PM   #10
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Vc is right, drawing the terrorists into Iraq was a by product of the invasion, not the main reason we were told we went in.Its the same thing as the liberating the people of Iraq rationalization, theyre liberated now, but we would have had no support from anyone if we gave that as a reason for invading another country.Theyre pleasing to the ear but far from the truth about the matter.Hell, the president has the sense not to try playing that card and making the public believe it.
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