Oh man, that looks just about like what I said a week ago
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FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
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Steel framing is not fireproof, even steel I-beams are easily cut, or have holes blown through them.But in steel framing its not all heavy material like I-beams either, theres a lotta thinner metals used that play a role in supporting things.even the heavy material such as I beams dont have to melt, they just have to get hot enough to warp and everything above them shifts.you combine a few of these factors and somethings gonna
And CharlieP said
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.I worked with most of these materials, I know their functions, and I know what can happen to them under the right circumstances.Do you?
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I know everything.
Boy, you must not be near as educated as you let on
Charlie, the thing about the internet is I only have to see what you type.if i tried to read into every post i reply to its just gets so damn complicated.Next time try one of theseor maybe a .youll notice I used 3 to let you know i was messing with you but you must not have caught it, see how hard it can be.
but seriously, after reading that information have your crackpot conspiracy theories changed any?no smilie face here, Im serious.
thats page 4 matter of fact I gave him the option of replying to it again on page 6
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And you completely forgot to adress this
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even the heavy material such as I beams dont have to melt, they just have to get hot enough to warp and everything above them shifts.you combine a few of these factors and somethings gonna give.
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And hes apparently still working on his reply because this would be the 3rd time I asked
even the heavy material such as I beams dont have to melt, they just have to get hot enough to warp and everything above them shifts.you combine a few of these factors and somethings gonna give.
You guys kept trying to change the conversation back to the Towers when I was mainly talking about building 7. Explain how this has anything to do with building 7?
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charlie, were not the ones that changed the topic in that post.
page 1, nobody else had mentioned the other buildings
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Explain to me how three buildings did something that has never happened before because of a fire,especially building 7
only your second post in there and you brought up the other 2 buildings
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[/size]Chief Oreo Palmer radioed from the 78th floor of the South Tower.
[/size]For over a year the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey with the blessing of the U.S. Justice Department refused to release the contents of the tape. In August of 2002, excerpts from Chief Palmer and others were released. In early November of 2002, the entire tape was released to the New York Times, then to other unspecified "news outlets" (according to the Associated Press). 1112[/color]
[color=#660000]Seven minutes before the collapse, battalion chief Palmer is heard to say "Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines." The widow of Chief Palmer was allowed to hear the tape before excerpts were released by the Times. She said:
And there you start addressing the fire weakening the south tower.
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spilling extremly volitile jet fuel throughout the building causing fires that are hot enough to make high-strength steel white-hot.
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This also totally false the jet fuel does not burn hot enough to make steel whits hot.
How were the holes put in the the girders?
There you are addressing the jet fuel temperature.see Charlie, up till that point i hadnt even chimed in so i wasnt trying to change any subject, just replying to what you had allready said.can you feel the conspiracy falling apart yet?
9/11: Debunking The Myths
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