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Old 07-27-2006, 07:30 PM   #1
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How about no more "road side safety checks". Seems to me this is highly unconstitutional. Not that I have a damn thing to hide but they have no right.
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:56 PM   #2
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Once they negated the term "entrapment" and started calling it "stings" the handwriting was on the wall . Welcome to Orwell World , leave your liberty at the door . [&o]
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:23 PM   #3
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Once they negated the term "entrapment" and started calling it "stings" the handwriting was on the wall . Welcome to Orwell World , leave your liberty at the door . [&o]

Right on. Please feel free to treat yourself to a 3 floyds or a good porter. I guess what we need is an "enlightened" lawyer to fight this
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Old 07-28-2006, 12:36 AM   #4
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Once they negated the term "entrapment" and started calling it "stings" the handwriting was on the wall . Welcome to Orwell World , leave your liberty at the door . [&o]
Look up the word entrapment and get back to me. You obviously don't know what it means. Safety check points, DUI check points, etc.., prevent a lot of potentially dangerous people from continuing on the road. The only people I know of that really hate these check points are the ones who are habitually driving drunk or don't have all the safety equipment they need.

By the way, the reason we have these things is that lawyers for idiots who gothurt insisted that it's the police's fault for not catching them in the first place. And it's the liberal (mostly women's) groups that sue to force the police into "stricter" application of the laws.

So don't blame the police. We would much rather dedicate our time to catching more dangerous criminals also. And, it's usually the drunk or high moron who draws the most attention to himself and demands the most time from law enforcement.
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Old 07-28-2006, 05:23 AM   #5
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Once they negated the term "entrapment" and started calling it "stings" the handwriting was on the wall . Welcome to Orwell World , leave your liberty at the door . [&o]
Look up the word entrapment and get back to me.Â* You obviously don't know what it means.Â* Safety check points, DUI check points, etc.., prevent a lot of potentially dangerous people from continuing on the road.Â* The only people I know of that really hate these check points are the ones who are habitually driving drunk or don't have all the safety equipment they need.
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Main Entry: en·trap·ment
Pronunciation: -m&nt
Function: noun
1 a : the action or process of entrapping b : the condition of being entrapped
2 : the action of luring an individual into committing a crime in order to prosecute the person for it

Pulling me over to violate my privacy simply on the pretext that I might be drinking and driving isn't entrapment , no . The entrapment reference was merely for illustration to point out that sometime unscrupulous things are done "in the name of the law". Luring me to come to a phony fence to fence something I stole surely is entrapment , if I hadn't been tempted I might not have committed a crime . If the phony fence wasn't offering more than the real one I might have thought it wasn't worth the risk . When some undercover narc approaches me and offers to sell me dope just because of where I happen to be standing at the time then who's breaking the law ? So y'all don't practice entrapment sometimes on the flimsy pretext of "public safety" ? Please ...

For the record , I neither drink and drive nor dislike cops , you don't write the laws that constitute the problem . I simply despise being pulled over and and forced to blow into a machine when I haven't given the cop any reason whatsoever to believe that I should . I'm also not comfortable with the concept of someone coercing me to either potentially incriminate myself in blatant violation of my rights or risk losing my license before I even see a courtroom , but that doesn't seem to matter anymore either . You're not the disease , just a symptom of a greater and increasing ill .

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Old 07-28-2006, 07:15 AM   #6
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If detaining and searching people under the pretense that they MIGHT be doing something unsafe is a valid excuse, then don't complain when the police kick in your doors at 2AM and tear your house apart just to make sure that you aren't cooking methamphetamine. Or, how about house to house spot checks by childrens services to conduct physical exams on your kids to make sure that they aren't being abused.
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Old 07-28-2006, 07:22 AM   #7
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Okey dokey.

Funny how if you have a badge your waved right through these stops.


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Old 07-30-2006, 05:19 PM   #8
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Its more than drinking and driving, it is a total violation of the Constitution. Why does an officer have the right to pull me over just to see if I have been drinking, have any drugs or weapons, warrants, or insurance. Man that borders on Nazism.[:'(]
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