I work in Ky and my employer will fire you on the spot if you have weapons in your car on their property. I hope this law has some bite to it and makes them back down.
Labor and Employment
June 21, 2006
Kentucky"s Legislature Authorizes Concealed
Weapons at Work
Governor Fletcher recently signed a law that requires employers to allow concealed
weapons at work. The statute states that "
No person, including but not limited to an
employer, who is the owner, lessee, or occupant of real property
shall prohibit any person
who is legally entitled to possess a firearm
from possessing a firearm, part of a firearm,
ammunition, or ammunition component
in a vehicle on the property." (Emphasis
added.) Employees may remove firearms from vehicles for "self-defense, defense of
another, defense of property, or as authorized by the owner, lessee, or occupant of the
property."
The statute was intended to address an open issue under Kentucky law " can an
employer prohibit weapons in the employer's parking lot if an employee is otherwise
permitted to carry a weapon in a vehicle? The new statute says "no" " firearms are
permitted in any vehicle on company property. More importantly, the statute creates a
new cause of action against an employer if an employee is fired, demoted or otherwise
disciplined for keeping a firearm in a vehicle on company property.
The statute still allows an employer to prohibit firearms on its property other than in
vehicles. An existing statute also seems to allow employers to prohibit weapons in
company-owned vehicles. Beyond these exceptions, however, employers may not
impose discipline for keeping firearms in employees" personal vehicles in the company
parking lot.
The law goes into effect July 1, 2006. The new statute is bound to create challenges in
its application. Conflicts with property rights and workplace violence policies are bound
to occur. For help in reviewing your workplace violence policies, or for drafting and
reviewing such policies, please contact a Frost Brown Todd
In one episode of "All In The Family" Archie Bunker had the solution to the airline hijacking problem. He said to just hand out a pistol to everybody boarding the plane, and have everbody leave them in a box on the way off for the next flight.
I can understand an employer not wanting a firearm on the jobsite, but I don't think my car is any of their business.
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It becomes thier business if the firearms stolen off thier property and used in a crime.Or one of the employees whos allowed to keep a gun in thier car on the premises goes off the deep end starts shooting people.This is one of the few gun laws that I have to agree with, your right to bear arms shouldnt over ride thier rights as property owners or your fellow employees rights to a safe workplace.And it shouldnt become a liability for your employer in the event of a lawsuit, which it certainly would if something happewned on thier property.They should have the option of covering thier ass in these situations.We are constantly fighting to kjeep our right to bear arms so why are we so willing to step all over someone elses rights in the process?
So should we or companies have the right to decide what amendment we choose to use on our private property. Can my company choose to not hire women or minorities on their property. What if they don't like the first amendment. Should they have the right to have a second amendment free zone and over ride the constitution?
What about my right to protect myself on the the way to and from work. If I'm car jacked I am defenceless.
A study in 2004 showed only 8 percent of workplace violence was by employees or former employees. Either way I see companies will use a loop hole to still fire someone if they bring a gun to work in their car.
It becomes thier business if the firearms stolen off thier property and used in a crime.Or one of the employees whos allowed to keep a gun in thier car on the premises goes off the deep end starts shooting people.This is one of the few gun laws that I have to agree with, your right to bear arms shouldnt over ride thier rights as property owners or your fellow employees rights to a safe workplace.And it shouldnt become a liability for your employer in the event of a lawsuit, which it certainly would if something happewned on thier property.They should have the option of covering thier ass in these situations.We are constantly fighting to kjeep our right to bear arms so why are we so willing to step all over someone elses rights in the process?
I think the intelligent thing would be to amend the law to prohibit liability to companies for weapons inside employees' vehicles. This issue can be corrected, just a matter of doing it right.
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So should we or companies have the right to decide what amendment we choose to use on our private property. Can my company choose to not hire women or minorities on their property. What if they don't like the first amendment. Should they have the right to have a second amendment free zone and over ride the constitution?
What about my right to protect myself on the the way to and from work. If I'm car jacked I am defenceless.
A study in 2004 showed only 8 percent of workplace violence was by employees or former employees. Either way I see companies will use a loop hole to still fire someone if they bring a gun to work in their car.
What about your right to find a job someplace else?Seriously, nobody forces you to work their, if you cant follow the rules nothings there to stop you from finding a job someplace where they dont care whats in your car.
Should I be able to come in your house with a loaded gun without asking?If Im hunting someplace without permission am I tresspassing or excersicing my constitutional right to bear arms?Your place of employment is still private property, just like your living room or someones field.I know personally if someone brings a gun in my house around my kids without my knowledge they wont be asked in again, how about your place?Do you get to decided things like that in your home?That argument doesnt hold water, peoples rights are decided for them on private property every day.
Immigrants and minoritiesare a entirely seperate issue, theyre not used to committ violent crimes the property owners liable for.If you wanna throw statistics around i believe statistically in a violent crime your own guns about as likely to be used against you as you being able to defend yourself with it.
Is it a company loophole when your wife decides to sue them because the gun you chose to bring to work was used to shoot you in the company parking lot?Sunds farfetched but it happens, and your company knows it happens, and thier liability insurance carriers know it happens.And 3/4 of the people in this country in this day and age are willing to sue over the drop of a hat.
Cal hunters got the right answer, if the state takes full responsibilty away from the companies for any incidents taking place due to these firearms then thats a whole different story, I could back that up 100%, but thats not what Im getting out of the artical.
" What about your right to find a job someplace else?Seriously, nobody forces you to work their, if you cant follow the rules nothings there to stop you from finding a job someplace where they dont care whats in your car. "
Why should I follow their rules when their rules contradict the constitution and state law. They must follow environmental laws and discrimination laws why don't they follow this law. They don't get to choose what law they want to follow. If the constitution changes or the state law changes then I would have no problem follow the law.
" What about your right to find a job someplace else?Seriously, nobody forces you to work their, if you cant follow the rules nothings there to stop you from finding a job someplace where they dont care whats in your car. "
Why should I follow their rules when their rules contradict the constitution and state law. They must follow environmental laws and discrimination laws why don't they follow this law. They don't get to choose what law they want to follow. If the constitution changes or the state law changes then I would have no problem follow the law.
So I would be in my rights to come and sit in your house with a loaded weapon regardless of what you want?Im just excersising my constitutional rights arent I?Wrong, if it worked that way nobody would need gun permits, background checks, or mandatory waiting periods and we would all be able to openly carry whatever guns we wanted wherever we wanted, it doesnt work that way though when public safetys concerned, then you get annoying little rules like these And like I said, you dont have to follow the rules, theres plenty of other jobs out there without any rules at all about having guns in the car.
The Second Amendment protects an inalienable human right. We put up with enough crap regarding the background checks and gun bans as it is. If employers don't like guns, then I recommend they do business in another country (where only criminals have guns).
Good law in my book. Guns at the workplace.
